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Vatican Document on Feminism

Started by Jozeph, 08/01/2004 05:45PM
Posted 08/01/2004 05:45PM Opening Post
After reading this short article I have to wonder if the vatican knows which century we are living in. Can they really be that out of touch? :S

http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=5836602

Posted 08/02/2004 12:43AM #1
Don't confuse Catholicism with all of Christianity. There are many female clergy in the Methodist faith. I do agree that some militant feminists seem to want to erase differences between the sexes, and some people want to make homosexual union equal to marriage, but they are different, aren't they? btw, our position is that being homosexual isn't the sin, engaging in same-gender sexual activity is the sin. You don't have to agree.
Posted 08/02/2004 12:55AM #2
Before you guys make any comment on this document, I would highly suggest that your read it in its entirety instead of reading commentaries to see whether the Catholic Church is really out of touch.

Below is the english translation of this document.

http://www.zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=57636

Regards,

Chris
Posted 08/02/2004 08:22PM #3
8O Out of Touch!!!

Of course their out of touch. They never have been in touch. Given total freedom we'd be back to the 1350's in a micro-second.

If you believe any other way then they really have you fooled. I dropped out at 14 and never looked back. That was 58 years ago.

A "Going to hell for sure" ex-catholic. Not only there but in the very bottom of the pit as I was told, by a priest, at the time. Well, if I'm going there, I'll be joined by many of his fellow brothers!

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Posted 08/03/2004 03:23AM #4
Okay, read the whole thing. Now, let's see.....

First of all I just love how the feminist movement is responsible for the breakdown of the family and homosexuality, and that women seeking a greater role in society must necessarily be power-hungry, gender confused, and emasculating antagonists of men. Further that problems between the sexes are due to the “Original Sin” and we all know whose fault that was, don’t we! I also particularly liked how the reason God created a helpmate for Adam was so that he “does not sink into a sterile, and in the end, baneful encounter with himself.” Oh my! Well, we couldn’t have Adam going blind now could we. smile

There is quite a bit of verbiage about active collaboration between the sexes, common humanity, partnership, and the importance of feminine values and that’s all fine, until we get to the “principal elements of the biblical vision of the human person. Parallels are drawn between the relationships of men and women and the relationship between Christ and his “beloved bride” the Church. Apparently women have but one role in this view, to be “witnesses for all Christians of how the Bride is to respond in love to the love of the Bridegroom”. Scriptures are even pulled from Revelations, where Jerusalem is “prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.” In other words - women, prepared to be screwed. :S

I could pick this apart further, but it would take too long so I’ll spare you. In a nutshell, the Vatican seems to be saying that men are from Mars, women are from Venus, but Mars needs women, so come on out a fulfill those womanly duties.

By the time I reached the end of this didactic and often obtuse document, I felt very much like I was back in the 60’s, being patted on the head by my Dad and told to be a good girl and go play with my dolls.

2000 years of wisdom? Sounds like a bunch of old men who fear for their own power and status to me. Oh, it IS a bunch of old men clinging to power and status? Ah, I see.

Nice try.

Sweet the coming on
Of grateful evening mild; then silent night
With this her solemn bird and this fair moon,
And these the gems of heaven, her starry train.
--John Milton