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An Athiest's World View

Started by agonggo, 08/07/2004 12:56PM
Posted 08/07/2004 12:56PM Opening Post
Hello Everyone,

I was wondering, for an athiest, what do you think would the world be like if everyone is an athiest? Would the world be a better place and why? Would there be more equality and justice? What is the world view of an athiest?

Regards,

Chris
Posted 08/07/2004 01:21PM | Edited 08/07/2004 01:22PM #1
Try listening really hard to John Lennon's "Imagine."

Alex
Posted 08/09/2004 05:23AM #2
Hello Guys,

I don't think you guys got my point. What I am asking here is WHAT ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS DOES ATHEISM HAVE ON THE PROBLEMS OF HUMAN NATURE?

This topic has degraded to attacks on religion and on how religion failed. Yet NO ONE has posted on WHAT VIABLE ALTERNATIVE DOES ATHEISM OFFER?

We talk about warfare and yes, human life is warfare. Whether it is nations at war, groups at war with others, cultures clashing against others, business rivalries, political rivalries, family rivalries, etc. I can go on and on and on! In what SPECIFIC ways can atheism do away with these problems?

Regards,

Chris
Posted 08/11/2004 10:37AM | Edited 08/11/2004 10:38AM #3
Chris:

Many confuse religion with morality. Both change with the times and not necessarily in unison with each other. Although many would say that the later is dependent on the former I totally disagree. I think morality, in what ever version it may flower itself, would exist without religion.

But there is something to be said about group hysteria. I feel some pretty weird things can occur in a group concentrated on a single goal. In this frame of mind reality moves into a state of flux that can not be rationally explained. Such a state of affairs are even explained in the Bible. "When two or more are gathered in his name." That also holds true for mass meetings that are totally non religious. E.G. Woodstock, Hitler's mass meetings, UFO sightings and many other examples. Some of these outcomes are very difficult to explain without resorting to the derogatory term, "Mass Hysteria."

About 20 years ago my wife and I took a seminar on Silva Mind Control. I saw some pretty weird things occur in that week long seminar. Things that could not be explained in a rationale manner.

The only difference between the two "worlds" would possibly be less war over, "My God is better than your God" but then the world would have a lot more people in it or maybe not. With the edict of having children till your totally broke out the window, maybe there would be less.

These ramblings are totally without foundation since the theory, at least in our lifetimes, will never be tested. One more thing, extrapolating the consequences to Russia is totally groundless. They didn't have religion, but they also had one crappy form of government. That negates any comparison.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."