http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/world/2012/01/25/pkg-newton-honor-killings-in-canada.cnn
Not guilty?
Not guilty?
Honor Killings
Started by Rod Kaufman, 01/26/2012 03:08PM
Posted 01/26/2012 03:08PM
Opening Post
Posted 01/26/2012 07:37PM
#1
Rod Kaufman said:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/world/2012/01/25/pkg-newton-honor-killings-in-canada.cnn
Not guilty?
I know Rod..it's tough..but it isn't a crime to kill anyone who leaves the Islamic religion..let alone a family member who insults and embarases you. It is Allah's will. Quran 4:89. Also Muhammad says in the Hadith,Vol.4 no.260 "The prophet said, if somebody(A Muslim) discard his religion, Kill him". It's the sad reality bro.
Eternity is a long time to be wrong.....so accept Jesus as your Savior.
Posted 01/28/2012 03:33PM
#2
Rod Kaufman said:
http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c2#/video/world/2012/01/25/pkg-newton-honor-killings-in-canada.cnn
Not guilty?
It is currently in the hands of the Jury.
Here in Toronto this sort of thing is not unheard of. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aqsa_Parvez
In 2007 I taught one semester at a high school in Toronto where about 60% of the student body was of Afghani descent. (all either 1st or 2nd generation) It was relatively easy to notice girls arriving in traditional dress (head scarf, long dress) and go into a washroom coming out a few minutes later in shorter skirts or jeans and more 'modern' tops. At the end of the day the clothing was reversed for the journey home. I shudder to think what might happen at home if the parents found out....
The practice is NOT anywhere in the Quran or in any other religious text - it is a cultural phenomenon in certain south Asian countries.
From Wiki: "According to Dr. Shahrzad Mojab, a University of Toronto professor of women’s studies, followers of Hinduism, Islam, Judaism and Christianity have used their religions as a rationale to commit honour killings. However, Mojab stated that honor killings don't have "any definite connection with religion at all." She also pointed out that honor killings have been practised before any major religion came into existence.[23]
Widney Brown, the advocacy director of Human Rights Watch, said that the practice "goes across cultures and across religions." Human rights advocates have compared "honor killing" to "crimes of passion" in Latin America (which are sometimes treated extremely leniently) and also to the killing of women for lack of dowry in India.[24]
Tahira Shaid Khan, a professor of women’s issues at Aga Khan University, notes that there is nothing in the Qur'an that permits or sanctions honor killings.[24] The first and most basic right in the Qur'an that every Muslim is expected to follow is, in fact, the right to life. [25] As written in the Qur'an,
That if anyone slays a human being – unless it be [in punishment] for murder or for spreading corruption on earth – it shall be as though he had slain all mankind; whereas, if anyone saves a life, it shall be as though he had saved the lives of all mankind. (5:32) .[26]
Khan instead blames it on attitudes (across different classes, ethnic and religious groups) that view women as property with no rights of their own as the motivation for honor killings.[24] Khan also argues that this view results in violence against women and their being turned “into a commodity which can be exchanged, bought and sold.” [27]
A survey by author, Ellen Sheeley revealed that 20% of Jordanites sampled, believe that Islam condones and even supports murder in the name of family honor.[28] Others note how religious meaning attached to terms such as virginity and bride-price help to reinforce social traditions and the control of women’s body and their sexuality. [29]
Some scholars believe that open interpretations by religious scholars of the Qur’an have also introduced problems, especially of the verse which states:
"Men are responsible for women... So virtuous women obey [their husbands]... Admonish those of them on whose part you apprehend disobedience, and keep them out of your bed, and beat them."
Many scholars and religious officials have offered their interpretation of what beatings should consist of and what the Qur’an deems appropriate. According to some, the open interpretation for verses such as these encourages interpretation for other aspects of Islamic law and the Qur’an.[30]
Dave
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