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Through with Discovery Telescopes (Long)

Started by jtpowers1972, 04/01/2007 08:06AM
Posted 04/01/2007 08:06AM Opening Post
I am frustrated by my dealings with Discovery Telescopes. I ordered an 8" F6 PDHQ from Bill at Discovery last October, and it took about a month to deliver it. Twice as long as Bill said, but not too bad. Yet.

When I unpacked the main tube, I immediately noticed that the spider vane was installed askew, based on obviously misaligned bolts on the tube. The main mirror holes were also not well aligned.

So I called Bill (which took several days to accomplish), and he said he would replace the main tube. Said he would send FedEx to have the tube picked up, so he could reinstall the hardware on the new tube. Fine.

After the third time that the FedEx truck never showed up when Bill said it would, I suggested (after again taking many days to accomplish a discussion with him) that Discovery just send out a re-drilled new tube, and I would install all the hardware myself. He said that he would be happy to do so. It is now January of 2007. He said it should take about a week.

So, etc., etc., it is now April 2007, and no tube! I have repeatedly tried to contact Bill, with occasional success, at which points he always said "no more than another week."

So, a month after he told me that it had just shipped out, still no tube. Well, now I'm done. I will now never do business with Discovery again. It's not the total time, necessarily (even though that's plenty long), it's more of the constant untrue estimates given on a $1000 investment. Here is the text of my final email to Discovery:

Bill,

At this point, I simply don't understand what is happening with you and your and your company. In fact, I don't know at this point if you intend to send out the replacement tube you promised at all. I purchased this 8" F6 PDHQ telescope form you in October of 2006 and it was delivered several weeks later. As of yet, I have not removed the mirror or the base from their shipping boxes, much less actually used the telescope. You have assured me on numerous occasions that you would make right the flaws in the original tube. And so far- nothing. I would think that sending out a replacement tube would be one of the easiest tasks to for you to complete, relative to completing an entire telescope.

I am embarrassed to have to send you this email, because I greatly prefer to have friendly relations and exchanges with people I do business with. But given the lack of email response, lack of answering your phone at your place of business, and the lack of communication in general, my options to finally complete this >$1000 deal are few. One way communication is not very efficient.

The repeated delays have greatly frustrated me- not so much due to the total time, but because on the rare occasion that your phone is answered, I was repeatedly told that the tube is just about finished- always a week away. I fact, the last time we talked over three weeks ago, you told me the new tube had already shipped out.

If I thought it would actually happen, I would demand a refund. But from what I have learned, the time line for that transaction could be another 6 months. So I will close with this. Send the replacement tube if you wish, or send a refund if you wish. But as far as I am concerned, I am through doing business with Discovery. And when the opportunity presents itself on the Astronomy forums that I frequent (CN, Astromart, Yahoo Groups...), I will truthfully relay my experiences with Discovery and my intention of doing no further business with you. In fact, I intend to post this email on all three of these sites as of tomorrow morning. I have been left with no other recourse. $1000 spent, and no recourse. A mistake I will not repeat.

All of this ridiculousness, Bill. Over the cheapest part of the telescope. The tube.

With Frustration,
John Powers

I'm sorry for the long post, but given no other practical recourse, I can only share my experience in the hopes of preventing someone else going through my same frustrating experience. Thanks for listening, fellow Astromarters.
Posted 04/01/2007 03:45PM #1
Hi John, Sorry you're going through this trouble. They make you feel at their mercy knowing the entire time that they have no intentions of doing you right. It's a terrible feeling, I know I'm going through it with Meade on my LXD75 mount. It took several phone calls and being a jerk to make them acknowledge the fact that they have to fix it. Well it's been a month this week since they recieved my mount. Last week on two different occasions they called me asking if I had the problem resolved with my mount.
The bad thing was it was the same person that called both times and he did'nt let on that it had been long enough and should have already been replaced.

You feel like your hands are tied but you did the right thing in warning everyone about the service at Discovery. Businesses today seem to have lost contact with their most valuble asset-their customers. All we can do is buy from someone else.
Thank you for the warning, the list of this type of business giving this type of service is growing.
Best Wishes and good luck, Darrell
Posted 04/01/2007 05:17PM #2
John,
Tell them refund your money. If they do not do it then tell them you will call the Better Business Bureau for their area. Plus, you will spread the word across the word by internet. Give them a dead line and press them hard.

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Posted 04/01/2007 08:31PM #3
You can also call SKY&Tel if they run ads. Back in 1988 i orderd a 12.5" F/8 OTA from Telescopics, took two years to get the Mirror, i had to get Sky&Tel on their butts. Soon after that episode Telescopics went bust!

Chas
Posted 04/02/2007 02:15AM #4
John, I'm really sorry to hear about your problems... :S
To tell you the truth, this comes to me as a surprise, as I had ONLY heard good things about them, but your post is a "wake up call" for many, I'm sure.
I thank you for posting this, and really hope that all these issues will soon be adressed by the offending party... to your benefit.


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Posted 04/02/2007 02:45AM #5
Kinda makes you want to only do business with guys with names like Rick, Dave, Carl, Ed, Rolando, Bob, Al, and a bunch of other good folks I can't think of the names of right now. You know the ones I'm talking about... :-)
Posted 04/02/2007 05:22PM #6
John,
Thanks for the heads up! I was seriously considering a Discovery scope and now I"ll go with somethng else.

I've read the whole thread and I think I would not chance the same, you were more than fair. I don't buy telescopes often and I don't throw out money. It is a hobby!

Thanks again and good luck

Scott
Posted 04/03/2007 06:51PM #7
I had been planning on purchasing a Discovery 17.5" primary for a ATM dob.
This gives me pause though.
what are the alternatives in their price range?
Posted 04/03/2007 07:32PM #8
John,

If you happened to use a credit card for the scope purchase, consider contacting them and filing a dispute and explain the situation to them. Some cc companys are very pro consumer and can bring a lot of preasure to bear on sellers. If sellers refuse charge backs from the cc company they risk loosing the right to make sales via that credit card organization. If it is a major one like visa or mc, that can cost them a lot of business.

Hope things work out,

DanL