last night we had exceptinal good transparency and average seeing. so I decided to go for the irregular galaxy ngc 4449 so many different interpretations for colors in this galaxy are seen in the web,...I wonder why. some things seem to be certain... here is what I got: 9 TMB Apo f/9 SXV H16 seeing 5-6/10 transp 8/10 3 hours luminance (2,4,8,12 minutes) 6x9 min R 6x5 min G 6x10 min B (colors 2x2 bin) find more details on my webpage, please. http://stargazer.christelhager.info/sonic/index.html