Messier Perfect Master?Posted By Brian Risley |
Ron,
As one of the first to do the marathon back in 1987, I still had to rely on a list and finder cards to locate all the objects. Norm McLeod and I had been trying for years, coming close (>100) several times before 1987. Even with that experience, we had to rely on charts and aids, especially in the dense galaxy regions and the areas where dusk or dawn was going to make things difficult. I only used co-ordinates on 1 or 2 objects with my C-8 and we didn't use any co-ordinates with Norm's 12" f4. Even today, I recall where some of the objects are, but I don't have the ability to recall where all 100+ are. If I was showing the objects regularly to others, I might be able to, but not regularly trying to find some objects makes it impossible for me to find more than 1/2 of the list without going to some aid.
I have a very good recall, but not photographic. I suspect someone with a photographic memory could do it with no aid, and I could probably get to 70-80% if I regularly found them for a few weeks and re-aquainted myself with the Leo/Virgo area groups under darks skies.
The key being dark skies. Most of the objects will show in a good finder if you are in 7.0+ skies, but in today's light polluted environment, I would be hard pushed to find them all (not talking marathon here) from my house like I did in the late 70's/early 80's.
I can see the need for goto, I just roboscoped a SP mount with an Autostar, but I came from the old school of star hopping and sometimes using manual setting circles.
Brian Risley
As one of the first to do the marathon back in 1987, I still had to rely on a list and finder cards to locate all the objects. Norm McLeod and I had been trying for years, coming close (>100) several times before 1987. Even with that experience, we had to rely on charts and aids, especially in the dense galaxy regions and the areas where dusk or dawn was going to make things difficult. I only used co-ordinates on 1 or 2 objects with my C-8 and we didn't use any co-ordinates with Norm's 12" f4. Even today, I recall where some of the objects are, but I don't have the ability to recall where all 100+ are. If I was showing the objects regularly to others, I might be able to, but not regularly trying to find some objects makes it impossible for me to find more than 1/2 of the list without going to some aid.
I have a very good recall, but not photographic. I suspect someone with a photographic memory could do it with no aid, and I could probably get to 70-80% if I regularly found them for a few weeks and re-aquainted myself with the Leo/Virgo area groups under darks skies.
The key being dark skies. Most of the objects will show in a good finder if you are in 7.0+ skies, but in today's light polluted environment, I would be hard pushed to find them all (not talking marathon here) from my house like I did in the late 70's/early 80's.
I can see the need for goto, I just roboscoped a SP mount with an Autostar, but I came from the old school of star hopping and sometimes using manual setting circles.
Brian Risley