Posts Made By: Terry Friedrichsen

August 18, 2010 09:10 PM Forum: Polls

I agree with Mr Obama

Posted By Terry Friedrichsen


Nooo - I FULLY agree that it shouldn't be built. I don;t agree with Muslim religion or philosphy ...

As a strict constitutionalist myself, I have to point out that that is EXACTLY THE WRONG REASON for holding the opinion that the mosque shouldn't be built.

August 19, 2010 05:20 AM Forum: Polls

I am a

Posted By Terry Friedrichsen


All above choices imply faith. Atheism included.

If someone states, without proof, that he has a million dollars in his pocket, it doesn't require "faith" to disbelieve the claim -- especially when, to all outward appearances, the pocket seems to be empty.

Being atheist doesn't mean claiming certainty that no god exists; it's simply rejection (as unproven) of the claim that some god *does* exist.

August 19, 2010 07:13 PM Forum: Polls

I am a

Posted By Terry Friedrichsen


But he may have a statement from his stock broker in his front pocket saying he now has 2062 shares of Google stock. That single piece of paper would surely take up less room in the pocket than $1 million in folding money.

But that still doesn't mean "faith" is necessary in order to disbelieve his claim prior to being shown the proof.

And then, of course, the other shoe drops -- he offers to show you the proof, and then reveals that the piece of paper is invisible. But he's mystified as to why you *still* don't believe him.


August 20, 2010 01:48 PM Forum: Polls

I am a

Posted By Terry Friedrichsen

Luca Grella said:
Atheism cannot exist without religion. It seems to me that it is just a bunch of people
mad at religion..

So if religion had never been invented, all of us would be what, then?


August 20, 2010 02:27 PM Forum: Polls

I am a

Posted By Terry Friedrichsen

David Hawkins said:


But that still doesn't mean "faith" is necessary in order to disbelieve his claim prior to being shown the proof.

And then, of course, the other shoe drops -- he offers to show you the proof, and then reveals that the piece of paper is invisible. But he's mystified as to why you *still* don't believe him.

But if that shoe drops and he shows you the statement and you *still* don't believe what you see.....

That could only mean that there are reasonable grounds to doubt the authenticity of the statement or mistrust the veracity of the stock broker.

But the piece of paper and the stock broker are exactly what's missing here. Those things represent testable, reproducible, and independently verifiable evidence. Religion provides none of that, despite having thousands of years to come up with it.

August 20, 2010 01:38 PM Forum: Polls

I am a

Posted By Terry Friedrichsen

Chris Nicholl said:

David Hawkins said:

I'll take the words of Jesus Christ over Mark Twain any day.

Except that there's no way to reliably know what the words of Jesus Christ were, being as they weren't written down until 50-125 years after the fact.

And that's assuming that he's an actual person and not an amalgam of several supposed "messiahs" all running around there at about the same time.

August 20, 2010 11:19 PM Forum: Polls

Mr Obama needs.....

Posted By Terry Friedrichsen

Joel Tonyan said:

I don't understand what astronomy and politics have to do with one another.

Aw, c'mon. The polls are *fun* when they stir up a bit of controversy. And even if there's no agreement, the comments at least teach each side of the issue a little bit about the attitudes and viewpoints of the other.

August 20, 2010 11:25 PM Forum: Polls

Mr Obama needs.....

Posted By Terry Friedrichsen

Mark Rieck said:

The questions posed here are delivered in a manner akin to how FOX news delivers their "news".

Oh, yeah, as opposed to how "impartial" MSNBC and CNN are, right? Gimme a break. Just because Fox News doesn't push the left-wing ideology like MSNBC and CNN doesn't make *them* biased; you've got the shoe on the wrong foot.