Posts Made By: Floyd Blue

I think I will put this whole thing to bed for now. Until something is resolved about this whole mess, I think that any more posts about it will serve no purpose.
Buy what you feel is right and don't buy what you feel is wrong.
Let's wait until some one with actual factual information on this issue comes forward or at least until Herb receives the written letter about this and posts what it is all about, shall we.
Please, let this thread die. I do not wish to have to pull out the axe!

[COLOR="Red"]no one is looking for a fight from this end at least
Bill Burgess has asked us to not utter his name - fine with me - I think it is a waste of time anyway

Thank you
Herb[/COLOR]

I really would like to put this one to bed please. Let's just let it go and see what happens. This is not exactly a legal battle, but rather a request made by Bill to Herb and Herb seems to want to honor it, so let it die.

I am getting a little pissed about the fact that I am being ignored. > I have been very clear as to what I will not allow on this forum at this time. I have stated over and over why I am doing this. I don't care whether someone disagrees with me on this, it is a done deal.
Until this situation is resolved, there will be a ban on the use of the KNOWN terms and names that I have repeatedly attempted to stress are not allowed!!!!
Man, this is really getting to be too much. If this continues I will delete the entire thread and all posts that even seem related.
I am either the moderator or I am not. If you feel that I am overstepping my bounds, please feel free to tell Herb about it and ask that I be replaced.
I am trying very hard to keep things in check here. I need your cooperation in this. If I do not get it then I will gladly remove myself from this forum.

Just make the request about BO and then let it go
We cannot stop people we can only ask
thank you
Herb

So, I leave it to you all, stop using the Back Order's name and trade mark or not. I will allow the posts to stand and not delete them. This is Herb's decision and it is final.

I really could care less about Back Order's request and I certainly am not one of his supporters. I also have some interest in the situation concerning these EPs and their appearance for sale in other clothes. I have not tried to stop the flow of information on these issues, but rather to settle them.

I see no reason that the actual name can not be eliminated from the post without losing the content, but if you insist on using it, I will not stop you.

However, I do ask that if I make a request of the group to do something that it be granted. I have made no rules that were not just or proper and decisions have received much thought before being made.

I appreciate everyone that supported my situation and I will forgive those that did not. But I think that everyone here knows that I will not be intimidated or run over as moderator.

No personal attacks! Nothing that can be considered as inflammatory or degrading will be tolerated. No topics will be allowed that are deemed incorrect or improper. Any disputes between two members will be handled by private message and not on forum, this include disputes with me!

This forum will not degrade to becoming a place to bash manufacturers or products. Only personal opinions are acceptable and not just a tirade about something or someone. This is a place for discussion and not argument.

Enough said! Now, shall we get back to discussing EPs and not manufacturers and their legal issues?
Thanks,
Floyd

I hear that WO is about to release a new set of them. APM announced that they will again offer theirs for sale with a new run.
There are rumors about some others coming this year, but nothing for certain.
Maybe some one will come up with a great new EP for a nice price?

Robert wished to post this comment from the company involved, so I will repost it with slight editing.
This is so that it can not be said that I have tried to hide any facts about this fiasco.
I would also like to make the observation that no where is it stated that these EPs are illegal or pirated hardware. Interesting!
Thanks,
Floyd

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I needed a 12v power supply for my Dob, so that I could operate it from a 115v A/C wall plug. Well, there are power supplies out there that cost a bit that at regulated, but I thought I would like to save money and do it myself.
So, I took an old computer power supply and removed most of the wiring and wired in a 12v cigarette lighter plug. It provides 12v regulated power of up to 5 amps.
Cost, $0 for old power supply and $1.50 for a cigarette lighter socket. So $1.50 for a great power supply that is even fan cooled!

OK, I got a chance to try some changes in the power supply modification that I posted. I found some information online concerning modifying these power supplies for other purposes than computers.
One thing that came up was the use of all three yellow 12v wires as well as three black ground wires for the power connection. This helps with voltage drop. So, I wired all the wires to the cigarette lighter socket and was able to the run the ServoCat, Argo Navis and all three cooling fans with the power supply. It held the voltage well enough that there were no problems. Now I have to take the scope out and use it for an evening to see if it works under cold conditions and for long periods of time.
So far so good though!
I also found some good deals on dedicated power supplies that are designed to do this. I found a 5amp and and 10amp unit that even has a built in lighter socket! The 5amp is as low as $22 and the 10amps is $40. Shipping is $10-12.
So, if it does not work out then I will probably buy one of these.

I would suggest a 14mm Meade 4000 UWA or maybe a 12mm Nagler T-4. You can not expect to use extremely high power a lot, so a nice one of this focal length would be useful.

Check it out, in the eyepiece section of the ads, mint condition. Nice EPs that don't come up every day. If I did not already have them I would buy them.