Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
Fickling recently warned of xenophobia and blaming foreign groups. Also wrote higher temps and humidity could very well slow the spread.Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
I'll take Dr Fauci's advice over the opinion of this reporter...
Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
I'm not talking about Fauci.Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
Mel,
It's clear Dr Fauci and others are addressing the wild animals that are in the wet markets and the fact that the present virus as well as those anticipated in the future will come from these vectors.
Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
My link said the produce was so important, the wet markets should not be closed.Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
Mel,
It's clear Dr Fauci and others are addressing the wild animals that are in the wet markets and the fact that the present virus as well as those anticipated in the future will come from these vectors.
Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
Why did you post, "Mel, it is clear that Dr. ..." as if anything I posted disagreed with that? It is clear you thought I disagreed.Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
Mel, Dr Fauci isn't talking produce and neither am I. We're talking about the problem at hand and that is the transmission of infectious diseases from wild animals sold in these markets. So, either the markets have to close or the animals have to be prevented from being sold in the first place.
Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
I posted that link because he was a silly liberal. I pointed out two other silly articles from him, also. Your comprehension is getting worse!Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
"I posted a link that said the wet markets should not be closed because they are a good source of produce. I said if they are closed somebody else would sell that produce."
Those words are yours so it certainly seems that you disagreed with me when I said they should be closed....
Once more, I agree with Dr Fauci and others that the wet markets should be closed. I posted a link about it while you, on the other hand, posted a link as to why they should remain open because they also sell produce. If somebody else sells produce as in a supermarket in China, where it's readily available, then so be it. I'm more concerned, as Dr Fauci is, about stopping the sale of wild animals due to transmission of viruses like the coronavirus. Clear enough?
Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
Fauci: China Stop The Wet MarketsPosted By Mel Maki |
Covid-19 data and graphsPosted By Mel Maki |
An optimist will see glimmers of hope in the recent numbers. So they might say we behaved so well we are flattening the curve or they could say this virus just did not have the steam to take down our country, that it's danger was overestimated and you can't win betting against the power of our economy. There is a lot of compliance here locally with the social distancing. Few people that watch the news everyday will be dismissive of the virus. They will react more like me, it is wearing me down. There is just an avalanche of bad news, so much that I can only feel worse about our situation. So I think compliance will increase as people here get sick and convince hold outs they need to comply. There were a total of 20 cases in my county a couple of days ago and fewer people are out and driving around. I'll guess things will not be better thirty days from now. That will make weeks of VERY bad economic news.Originally Posted by James BrownThis next graph is not my original work, although I have reformatted it. The flu data is from the CDC and the Covid-19 data is from Worldometer. This is grim stuff.
The 2017-2018 Flu season was extraordinarily bad - over 60k deaths in the US. 2017-2018 was the worst flu season in many years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017%E2%80%932018_United_States_flu_season#Analysis_of_the_flu_season For comparison purposes, the 2011-2012 flu season was mild, only 12k deaths in the US. In each case the influenza fatalities were spread out over what is customarily defined as a "flu season," lasting about 211 days.
The red trace shows US Covid-19 fatalities, starting on March 7, when we had 19 fatalities so far. The slope of the Covid-19 fatalities curve is what is so problematic. Lots of people getting really sick and dying all at once. This rate of so many folks getting sick and dying substantially at the same time is what could (or is) overwhelming our health care system. Also, this curve is after all of the social distancing and isolation measures have been implemented for going on two-three weeks.
This graph shows why the huge risk of overwhelming the health care infrastructure with Covid-19 is not present in a typically bad flu season. With flu, the serious illnesses, hospitalizations and deaths are spread out in time. Last, it is not like the flu has gone away. The CDC data so far indicates that 2019-2020 is going to be a really bad season for influenza too. https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/03/health/flu-week-52/index.html
The President said that this week was going to be bad, with lots of death, and I agree with him. The next several weeks will probably be bad too. The total fatalities are up from 10,900 to 12,700 between today and yesterday, and several states have not yet reported today. I remain hopeful that the total US fatality rate will end up around 100k but it is tough to be that optimistic.
Why would I spend time graphing and sharing this grim data? Spinning Rich up is an amusing pastime of course, but that is not the reason. For me, fussing over this data and visualizing it helps me appreciate that our shared economic sacrifice is necessary and worthwhile. The nuggets of optimism shown in the graphs, like the slowed doubling rates are comforting. I'm looking forward to the day when I can post some clearly flattened-out graphs here! Jim
