Posts Made By: James Lacey

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Yes I cut the rest of that twisting in the wind to avoid the facts you were doing lol......If you are not that naive then why do you continually post as if it is all on Trump?....much like a computer, a president acts on the info he is provided with, had he done differently you would have been roasting him for that as well lol.....The statement on the 24th you pointed out  matched what he was being told....and his primary advisor was still saying there was nothing to worry about on the 26th.....

Which is it? Is Trump just a victim of circumstance, or does he have complete authority? It seems to me that you guys want it both ways. Can he alone fix it, or is he not a delivery service for the states? Should states fend for themselves, or is the federal government justified in seizing individual state's orders for PPE from abroad? So much so that some states, like MA, created a back-channel to get PPE into their state precisely so the federal government could not seize it? Is everybody going to be able to get a test that wants one, or is it the fault of states that the federal government rejected the WHO test? Are we going to have mobile testing sites all across the country in the parking lots of private businesses like CVS and Walgreens or not? Is Google working on that web site or not? We didn't open on Easter, is it May 1st now like has been promised? Where is that reopen the economy council we were promised, and what is their plan? The amount of obfuscation and disinformation and outright lying that has occurred by just Trump himself during this crisis is outrageous. Calling him a terrible leader is frankly an insult to terrible leaders everywhere.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

LOL....so we were supposed to let thousands pour in while taking time to announce etc etc?.....the goal was to stop the influx as quickly as possible.....if that inconvenienced some folks it is tough titty....Sounds like more TDS to me....

You can justify it that way if you want, but as it turns out, the ban was meaningless. In hindsight, it accomplished nothing.

Originally Posted by Darian Rachal

James, I just wonder how you're going to cope with four more years of a Trump presidency? I assume you have at least admitted to yourself that he can possibly be reelected. 

I continue to wonder if you will ever have a different rejoinder.

Originally Posted by James Brown

I see so much less distance between NYT or CNN and Fox than you do!

Of course Fox is primarily TV, and I don't watch the news on TV at all anymore!

Jim

p.s.  I'm talking about hard political content only.  PBS, and the NYT have excellent straight news, science, cultural, and other reporting that I enjoy very much and trust.

I know the NYT and WaPO lean left, and WSJ leans right, but they are head-and-shoulders above FOX or MSNBC. I do like NPR even for political stuff; they always seem quite fair and present both sides.

I think we have had this conversation in the past, but it's a myth that we ever had an independent press and media with no bias. In the beginning, all news and media were privately owned by the rich and powerful. Their purpose was to push a particular viewpoint. The idea of an unbiased media is a relatively modern invention. Take the NYPost, for example. In its current form, it's a tabloid. No one should take anything reported in it seriously. However, its founder was Alexander Hamilton in 1801 as the New York Evening Post. Its founding happened mainly because of the election of Thomas Jefferson, and its purpose was to push Federalist views.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

That is a ridiculous statement.....more people is more potential spread. Use some common sense

No, it's not. The virus was already here. The sudden and abrupt ban did nothing but cause a flood of people to return all at once from COVID hot-spots like Spain, and Italy. As a result, they crowded together in airports and spread it even more. Then, they dispersed to their communities and spread it even further.

A much more sensible approach would have been to announce a phased approach and given people time to plan and prepare for their return. The EU ban caught everyone by surprise, including our allies, federal immigration workers in airports, and expatriates. It overwhelmed our customs and borders system and our international arrival airports, and in the long-run, probably did far more harm than good.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Wow....now that I see it I remember that post.... I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt and accept his word.

After that "I did not" BOLD FACED LIE I see why you never cut him any slack.....LOL

Basically it tells me everything he says is to be taken with a grain of salt and not even worth the trouble to read.....Total loss of credibility.

Why is it that you want to completely miss this part, "The virus is already here. It was here as far back as December, and the CDC knew." I admit my rhetoric was a bit over the top. I honestly thought at the time that Miller might have been behind the decision. I'll say now that turns out not to have been the case. My main point was the ban was pointless, and that is vindicated with time. Anyone who cares can read it for themselves and make their mind up, and I'm perfectly comfortable with that.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

WSJ doesn't lean right.  Their opinion pages are conservative right leaning but their straight news isn't at all. It is definitely left of center.

Then again to a person whose politics are progressive socialist, bordering on Communism, I guess the NYT political pages would seem right wing.. 

So, you nit-pick whether the WSJ leans right or not, then you tangent off into some screed that seems to think I said the NYT is right-leaning when I clearly said it was left-leaning? Got it.

Originally Posted by Darian Rachal

I'll have to admit, I had to look up the exact meaning of rejoinder.  

It's just when I read some of your characterizations of Trump, I really wonder if it's conceivable to you that he may be reelected? You seem to be the poster child for TDS.

Okay, question answered. You do not have a different rejoinder.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

What's truly laughable about your posting above, is how when I or anyone challenges you, you continuously say "you're nitpicking my posting.  You're taking every word of what I say, you scan it, and you pick it apart".

My apologies to Rod for continuing the love-fest, but I promise, after this, I will have no more love to spend.

The point is Richard that you do pick-apart, take out of context, and misrepresent what people say routinely. You then use it as a basis 3,000 long word rant that I promise you no one reads.

This case is no different. If you go back and look at my original posting, in context, it was in response to Russ Carrol, who had posted about Trump's decision and his oval office address where he called it a "foreign virus." In context, my response does not seem too far over the top, given Trump's rhetoric. And my chief complaint was that the ban was unnecessary and would accomplish nothing. That initial observation of mine is vindicated.

That's it. That's the tweet. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

All yours now, Rod.

Originally Posted by Steven Moore

I agree Darian 100%  with you and what Greg posted. Look who the Democrats want to run for President Biden, I feel sort of sorry for him with his mental health, but "they" want him to be President so they can control him and us.

Steve,

Where have you been? Have you not listened to Trump recently anoint himself, King? It is hilarious to accuse Biden of wanting to control us and then completely ignore Trump's recent proclamations about how the President has complete authority. He seems to think, for example, that he can force Governors to reopen their states, and that he has the power to adjourn Congress at will, and that he and he alone controls the purse strings of the federal government.

This ad, released by a GOP group called the Republicans for the Rule of Law, that opposes Trump's re-election pretty well sums it up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJuhi4Pg-js