Posts Made By: James Lacey

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

I think there's one constant here that we, and virtually every MD who has spoken on the subject will agree, "you can't trust any information coming out of China"... 

I don't disagree with you, but the white-washing of history regarding Trump having always been "tough" on China and suspect of the WHO is just hog-wash.


Donald J. Trump - 2/24/2020:

The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & WHO have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!

Originally Posted by James Brown

I'm saying this without supporting Trump's version of events.  Sometimes two, three, four or more wrongs compound into a disaster where no one wears the white hat.

Jim

I agree, and I'm not trying to suggest that the WHO does not deserve some criticism in some respects. However, the re-writing of history so that Trump has a scapegoat to provide cover for his own mistakes is pretty galling, albeit par for the course in politics.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

In fact I bet if I felt like it I could go back and review your posts from the couple days following the China travel ban and find where you were bashing Trump along with most leftist wacko'ites for implementing the ban just like the MSM was......am I wrong? I doubt it.....LOL

You would be completely wrong. I never bashed the China travel ban. In fact, by the time we had done it, over 45 countries had already done it. It turns out, though, in hindsight, of course, that the travel ban had little effect. Even after the ban went into place, some 40,000 travelers from China entered the US through other departure points like Hong Kong, Singapore, and Japan.

Additionally, the infection in NY is primarily of European origin, which also came into the country before the European travel ban. Even CDC and HHS and FEMA officials were privately commiserating among themselves in the by now famous Red Dawn emails that the bans would not help, since the virus was already here. So, while I never bashed them in the sense that I said that they should not have occurred, the European ban could undoubtedly have been implemented far better than it was, it looks like they did little good.

Originally Posted by James Brown

Have we had a Tara Reade thread?  If so, I missed it.¹  

We have not!

I did a quick survey, and I could find plenty of reporting in most places other than CNN, such as NYT, Washington Post, MSNBC, etc.

It's legitimate to talk about sexual assault allegations against any candidate for the Presidency, including Donald J. Trump and Biden, and she has the right to be heard. No one should ever be allowed to gloss over or make excuses for their history in this regard.

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

James, you are concerned with, "Recognizing unconscious biases.." and you are determining these issues by whether or not they help Trump politically? Is that a conscious bias?

I'm not quite sure I follow you, Mel, but let me clarify several things. First, yes, I can't stand Trump, and it's doubtful anyone could ever redeem him for me. Second, I am not naive enough to think that Trump is solely responsible for the inadequate response from the Federal Government regarding the Coronavirus. However, Trump is the leader of the executive branch of government, and as such, he wields considerable sway and power. Trump has the most potent bully-pulpit in the world, and his use of that influence affects outcomes significantly. And what does he do with it? Trump lies, and Trump rewrites history and plays the victim. Trump says he both takes no responsibility and has complete authority. In short, he squanders that influence, and instead of using it to unify and inspire, he uses it to degrade people and participate in divisive politics and spread disinformation. Lastly, I believe good people are working behind the scenes at the federal level, and certainly at the state, local, and regional levels that will make good things happen. However, they are succeeding despite Trump, not because of Trump.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

I stand corrected then..... That does not change the fact that the rest of my post which you cut is factual and I noticed you didnt respond to it

Which, of course, proves nothing. Just like I'm not going to respond to everything Richard says, I'm certainly not going to respond to everything you post either. If you like to think that somehow shows that you won, then please feel free to do an end-zone dance, or take a victory lap, or spank your monkey. It makes no difference to me.

Originally Posted by James Brown

James:

I do not believe CNN has ever reported anything about the Reade story, to date.

This is true from what I can tell.

I do agree we should read widely, but certain sources like FOX, the Daily Caller, Townhall, etc. can safely be thrown on the trash heap right away.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Do you place that blame on Trump as you previously indicated? Even though his advisors were saying we had nothing to worry about? Even though Fauci stated Trump started both the China ban and the EU ban upon recommendation?

I think I've made it pretty clear I don't blame Trump entirely. He is however a terrible leader, a worse human being, and undoubtedly the stupidest man to ever occupy the office.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

I thought so but too much trouble to search out and confirm.....

I did not. What I said was that its implementation was terrible. It was unannounced and with no regard for coordination. It stranded thousands upon thousands of travelers in our airports who were returning from COVID hotspots shoulder-to-shoulder for hours upon hours why they tried to claim their luggage and navigate customs. Seriously Greg, the only person on the planet who misrepresents what people say worse than Trump, is Davis.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

The left and you were saying he should just declare a national shut down and raking him over the coals for saying it was up to the individual states all he could do was advise and support. Yall roasted him for it.

I never supported that. However, the President does set the tone.