Posts Made By: Mel Maki

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

Yeah, that was a Trump impersonator saying those words.

Originally Posted by David Cotterell

" When asked by ABC's George Stephanopoulos if he would accept help from a foreign government to win reelection in 2020, Trump said he would.

"If somebody called from a country—Norway—we have information on your opponent—oh. I think I’d want to hear it," Trump said.

"You want that kind of interference in our elections?" Stephanopoulos queried.

"It’s not an interference, they have information—I think I’d take it," Trump responded without missing a beat.

Trump added that "maybe" he would notify the FBI. When Stephanopoulos reminded Trump that FBI director Christopher Wray told Americans they should definitely notify the FBI in such an instance, Trump shut it down. "The FBI director is wrong," he said unequivocally.


Meanwhile...

Mueller's main conclusion: "“I will close by reiterating the central allegation of our indictments — that there were multiple, systematic efforts to interfere in our election.”

“That allegation deserves the attention of every American.”


And meanwhile:

"Mitch McConnell has successfully prevented election security proposals from reaching the Senate floor.

The Senate will not consider bills meant to protect the next elections from Russian interference due to Republican opposition to election security proposals.



Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) decided not to bring any bills meant to protect American voters from foreign meddling, according to Missouri Senator Roy Blunt (R).

Among the bills the Republican leader has effectively blocked are the Secure Elections Act, the Protecting the Right to Independent and Democratic Elections (PRIDE) Act, the Protecting American Votes and Elections (PAVE) Act, and the bipartisan Honest Ads Act, which requires the same transparency from online ads as from ads in other media."

So in 2020,  a) Trump's side will actively accept foreign-sourced info on their opponents to use against them,  b) There was massive Russian interference in 2016 and there is likely to be the same in 2020 and c) Trump's team has blocked any bills which will attempt to protect the integrity of the election process. 

These people are stealing your Democracy.....

Dave

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

LOL....Thanks for the chuckle David.  Deserves a two word response "Steele Dossier"

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

LOL....Thanks for the chuckle David.  Deserves a two word response "Steele Dossier"

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Dave:

Hopefully simple answer:

I suppose I care, but not too much.  It is entirely predictable and unsurprising that nations would try to interfere in each other's elections.  Only a fool would expect otherwise.  I have seen no compelling evidence that the Russians have effectively interfered in any US election.  Secretary Clinton lost 2016 the old-fashioned way, by running the most incompetent campaign in recent history.

I do expect the Federal and all 50 State governments to take reasonable steps to insure that electronic voting machines and ancillary computer networks are not hacked.  Cyber security is a fact of life in 2019 that we all must deal with.  I care very little if Russian troll farms hit social media with fake news and fake political ads.   I do favor technical solutions to minimize this sort of thing, but I also have deep disdain for anyone whose vote is influenced by side-bar ads on Facebook.  Uniformed voters (of any party) are a fact of life too.  I doubt that troll ads and fake news make much difference in any election.  


Jim

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

So Jim, then you don't care if Mitch McConnell prevents a bipartisan bill to help prevent election interference from becoming law?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/06/12/grim-reaper-mitch-mcconnell-buries-plans-election-security-editorials-debates/1423838001/

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Trump's double secret probation letter detailing the so-called "agreement" is outed in Mexico:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/448689-mexico-releases-copy-of-letter-touted-by-trump
The takeaway from the letter:
the U.S. and Mexico "will immediately begin discussions to establish definitive terms for a binding bilateral agreement
We're still discussing! Lol!!!

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Mel,
It already went thru that process in the house. McConnell won't even let it come up for discussion in the Senate. Nor is it what you've described, either...

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Your interpretation...