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Posts Made By: Robert Provin

September 6, 2012 11:04 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

The Loss of Arctic Ice

Posted By Robert Provin

Alan French said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19496674

Clear skies, Alan
Here is more on the ramifications of Arctic warming/melting:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120905200554.htm

Robert

September 8, 2012 03:31 AM Forum: Religion

WOW this happened before...

Posted By Robert Provin

Herbert York said:

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)

Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGCDsSceEVQ
Yes, and I believe the first person this was addressed to, was later made a saint!

September 14, 2012 03:19 AM Forum: Religion

Amen

Posted By Robert Provin

Herbert York said:

""For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect." Matthew 24:24 (NKJV)"

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28

For more information, please see: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/foxvideo.asp

September 14, 2012 03:11 PM Forum: Religion

Just Something To Ponder

Posted By Robert Provin

Darian Rachal said:

"For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world,
but that the world might be saved through him."

How refreshing! Thank you Darian.

September 18, 2012 08:09 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

Antarctic Sea Ice Extent Reaches Record High

Posted By Robert Provin

Dave Snope said:

Yet another fact blows up in the face of the AGW modelers.

Please don't miss that this is sea ice extent, the phenomena where the alarmists get inflamed whenever a large chunk naturally breaks off into the sea as warm ocean currents sweep by. Then the politicians and moviestars and tech billionaires fly down to Antarctica to get a last weepy look at the diminishing (errr, increasing) ice. And some Animal Planet show manages to find some penguins on a gravelly shoal and plays sad music to make it a tragedy. As has been shown in numerous studies, the ice over land has been increasing for a long time. So we increasing land ice, increasing sea ice. I guess that's cause for celebration among the weepy set, eh?

A recent paper in the Journal of Climate finds that most climate models erroneously predict that Antarctic sea ice extent decreased over the past 30 years, which "differs markedly from that observed." As noted in the abstract, Antarctic sea ice has confounded the models by instead increasing over the satellite era. In fact, it is currently at a record extent that is more than 2 standard deviations above the 1979-2000 average.

An Initial Assessment of Antarctic Sea Ice Extent in the CMIP5 Models
John Turner, Tom Bracegirdle, Tony Phillips, Gareth J. Marshall, and J. Scott Hosking

British Antarctic Survey, National Environment Research Council, Cambridge, UK
Abstract

We examine the annual cycle and trends in Antarctic sea ice extent (SIE) for 18 Coupled Model Intercomparison Project 5 models that were run with historical forcing for the 1850s to 2005. Many of the models have an annual SIE [sea ice extent] cycle that differs markedly from that observed over the last 30 years. The majority of models have too small a SIE at the minimum in February, while several of the models have less than two thirds of the observed SIE at the September maximum. In contrast to the satellite data, which exhibits a slight increase in SIE, the mean SIE of the models over 1979 - 2005 shows a decrease in each month, with the greatest multi-model mean percentage monthly decline of 13.6% dec-1 in February and the greatest absolute loss of ice of -0.40 × 106 km2 dec-1 in September. The models have very large differences in SIE over 1860 – 2005. Most of the control runs have statistically significant trends in SIE over their full time span and all the models have a negative trend in SIE since the mid-Nineteenth Century. The negative SIE trends in most of the model runs over 1979 - 2005 are a continuation of an earlier decline, suggesting that the processes responsible for the observed increase over the last 30 years are not being simulated correctly.




http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2012/09/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-record-high.html
David,
Well OK, but the part you leave out and your referenced article does not address, is land ice. If one looks at both land ice and SIE, Antarctic ice as a whole is indeed melting at an accelerated rate. Please see the following explanation: http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-gaining-ice.htm

September 26, 2012 08:33 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

NASA's Rubber Ruler

Posted By Robert Provin

Dave,
You've hit the nail on the head this time. What you have pointed out is just one more in a series of conspiracies involving NASA.

http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/2012/03/21/nasa-hiding-data-of-magnetosphere-reversal/

Thank you for your diligence.

December 6, 2012 04:19 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

Bill Nye takes on Marc Morano

Posted By Robert Provin

Hugh Bartlett said:

This was too much fun not to pass on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gWT-EWKIR3M
That reminded me of the first presidential debate....

January 7, 2013 07:26 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

NOAA Report: Global Sea Level Rise Nearing Zero

Posted By Robert Provin

Dave,
A few notes regarding your post.
1. Here is the original NOAA report:
http://ibis.grdl.noaa.gov/SAT/SeaLevelRise/documents/NOAA_NESDIS_Sea_Level_Rise_Budget_Report_2012.pdf
Quickly reading the report, I came across this statement:

"The above numbers represent the globally averaged changes in sea level and have magnitudes on
the order of millimeters per year. The regional patterns of sea level change, however, are many
times larger and can be extremely complex."

2. This study just published in "Environmental Research Letters", 2012, seems to come to different conclusions than those in your
post:
http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/7/4/044035/article


Robert

January 25, 2013 05:27 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

Ex-NASA Scientist Team Concludes No AGW Threat

Posted By Robert Provin

Here is the Skeptical Science response:

http://skepticalscience.com/NASA-retirees-letter2.html

Robert

January 28, 2013 07:27 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

Some Good News?

Posted By Robert Provin

Robert Provin said:

I hope this turns out to be correct:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130125103927.htm

Robert

Skeptical Science discussion:

http://skepticalscience.com/climate-sensitivity-cicero.html

The good news in the Norwegian study is warming will only be at the low end of the IPCC forecasts. However this is only one study of many.