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Posts Made By: Robert Pasken

January 30, 2009 03:20 AM Forum: Politics

Re: Rush

Posted By Robert Pasken

Since you want to impeach Obama, please provide the documentation of acts by Obama that are impeachable. The definition the law requires is that a President, who maintains that he is above the law and repeatedly violates the law thereby commits high crimes and misdemeanors. A high crime or misdemeanor is an archaic term that means a serious abuse of power, whether or not it is also a crime, that endangers our constitutional system of government.

February 3, 2009 03:36 AM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

News

Posted By Robert Pasken

A series of useful comments

February 3, 2009 07:24 PM Forum: Politics

Re: Finally an honest liberal

Posted By Robert Pasken

No! That is the goal of fake conservatives. Kill off everyone that they don't like

May 30, 2009 06:23 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

Here is an interesting taxonomy

Posted By Robert Pasken

An reasonably accurate description:

Here’s a first attempt at a taxonomy, .... Looking at those who have either propounded or accepted anti-science views on this topic, nearly all appear to fit into one or more of the following categories

* Tribalists
* Ideologists
* Hacks
* Irresponsible contrarian
* Emeritus disease

Further update The discussion has convinced me that I need to add a further category, that of irresponsible contrarian. I’d previously applied this to Richard Lindzen, see below, so it was a mistake not to have this category.

Tribalists are probably the biggest group, with two main subcategories.
First, there’s a group of people who really dislike environmentalists and can’t bear the thought that they could be right about something as important as climate change. This group is strongly represented among (though still a minority of) engineers and mining geologists, groups that appear to make up most of the rank-and-file membership of the Lavoisier Group, for example.
Second, there are rightwingers in the US and other countries (including Australia) where the political right derives most of its thinking from the US. The basic motivation is the same, except the animus is directed towards liberals (in the US sense) and leftists in general, rather than environmentalists specifically. Members of this group are notable for an obsessive focus on Al Gore: some seem to think that an An Inconvenient Truth and not, say, the thousands of pages of IPCC reports, is the primary document in the case for action on climate change.
There’s nothing much that can be done about the political right, which is wrapped in impenetrable layers of delusion, but there’s a lot that can be done (and is being done, to some extent) to bridge cultural gaps between environmentalism and professions like engineering and geology. Younger members of these professions tend to be lot more concerned about sustainability, while the spread of suits, haircuts and a generally pragmatic approach among environmentalists has done its bit also.
Ideologists overlap significantly with tribal rightwingers, but are potentially more amenable to argument. These are people with a libertarian, or more generally pro-market outlook, who have convince themselves that doing something serious about climate change involves a major step towards socialism (a view shared by a few hopeful socialists). Given this conviction, wishful thinking inclines members of this group towards scientific delusionism. For most of these people, the fears they have are groundless. The standard measures proposed to deal with climate change, emissions trading and carbon taxes, are minimally interventionist, both in scale (maybe $10 billion a year for Australia to start with, and not much more even in the long run) and form (these are market-based methods of correcting externalities).
There are, I guess, a handful of extreme libertarians whose ideological position depends on the non-existence of global public goods requiring global policy solutions. To this group, I can only say that if your political views are inconsistent with the existence of the atmosphere, perhaps you should revise those views rather than trying to adjust reality to fit them.
The third group, not large in number, but important as opinion leaders, are hacks, who argue against science for a living. This group can easily be recognised by their past track record. Since there aren’t many people prepared to do this kind of thing, the same individuals and institutions have pushed the corporate line on tobacco and passive smoking, the ozone layer, DDT and climate change, among many others. In Australia, the IPA has played the leading role in this respect, running hard on passive smoking before shifting to climate delusionism.
The individual who most exemplifies this group globally is Steve Milloy, an all-purpose compendium of hackery, who spent years presenting himself as a scourge of “junk science” while secretly on the payroll of tobacco and oil companies. He’s now the official Science expert for Fox News, which says it all I guess. People who have paid little attention to th issue and have accepted Internet factoids as trustworthy can often by persuaded by pointing out their origin with people like Milloy. But at this point the majority of delusionists have well-established mental defences for their own delusions; many have convinced themselves that it’s the real scientists who are spouting lies for money and that corporate funding for the likes of Milloy is just self-defence.
The best hope of dealing with this group has been making life hard for their paymasters. After being outed as the money pump for a string of front groups, Exxon has largely given up paying. For anyone old enough to have been in the game before the mid-1990s, it’s always useful to check the Tobacco Archives, which document every corrupt payment made by the tobacco industry to its legion of hired guns.
Fourth, there are irresponsible contrarians, exemplified by Richard Lindzen. The typical contrarian is skilled enough in argument to maintain a weak position, and successful enough in their own field (often tangentially relevant to the issue at hand) to have an inflated view of their own intelligence. And they prefer confuting the conventional wisdom (to their own satisfaction) to giving serious consideration to the views of experts on subjects where there own knowledge is limited. The type is most clearly illustrated by a 2001 Newsweek interview of Lindzen that I’ve quoted before
Lindzen clearly relishes the role of naysayer. He’ll even expound on how weakly lung cancer is linked to cigarette smoking. He speaks in full, impeccably logical paragraphs, and he punctuates his measured cadences with thoughtful drags on a cigarette.

Anyone who could draw this conclusion in the light of the evidence, and act on it as Lindzen has done, is clearly useless as a source of advice on any issue involving the analysis of statistical evidence. But, I imagine, he could hold up his side of this argument just as well as he does on climate change.
Finally, and most unfortunately, there is Emeritus disease, a problem that is found in every area of academic controversy. The typical sufferer is an older male, with the archetypal case being the holder of an emeritus position. Unfortunately, aging tends to go along with both a hardening of intellectual arteries and an unwillingness or inability to keep abreast of recent developments in the field in question, with the effect of dogmatic attachment to views formed long ago. Having taken a view of an issue on the basis of very limited consideration, they remain dogmatically attached to it until the end of their days.
(Looking at the description, I’m obviously a high-risk candidate for going emeritus myself. That’s one reason I try to engage in discussion with people holding a range of views from which I might learn something, most recently economists of the Austrian school).

January 23, 2006 06:15 AM Forum: Refractors

ETX60

Posted By Robert Pasken

Sorry to jump in late and since you have the scope fixed this won't be of much use but www.weasner.com/etx has an article in the techtips section on how to field strip an ETX-60 or ETX-70 to fix a focus knob problem. The author did a nice job with many photos that are clearly marked to show what needs to be done.

February 11, 2006 06:41 PM Forum: Beginning Astronomy?

HELP! Auto Star Mumbo jumbo #*%

Posted By Robert Pasken

The Autostar is pretty self-explantory and works extremely well. Have you followed the instructions in the manual concerning calibrating and training?. Essentially you go to the "setup" menu entry and then the "telescope" menu entry. from that menu choose "calibrate". The scope will run it's motors to make sure it can sense change. The pick a distant target and point the scope at it. Choose the "train" menu entry and "train" each axis. At night level both the mount and tube, after pointing the scope mostly north. Start the autostar and choose easy align. After that you can spend your time looking at objects in the sky rather than spending four or five hours trying to find the "house with broken roof" or a "klingon battlecruiser" so that you can find just one object. Don't pay any attention to those who spread Fear, Uncertaintity and Doubt (FUD) that you aren't really an amateur astronomer unless you have a dob and spend you time starhopping.

November 26, 2006 03:12 PM Forum: Deep Sky Observing

Can you see these galactic details?

Posted By Robert Pasken

Interesting post! I decided to take a long look at M33 using my Orion 120mm refractor and a 15mm Apogee widefield thanskgiving night. I could see NGC-604 with averted vision, but wasn't sure until I verified it against my charts.

August 29, 2007 06:37 PM Forum: Maksutovs

Accessories for Quantum 6

Posted By Robert Pasken


James Kelley said:

Just dug an old OTI Quantum 6 out of mothballs. Everything seems to be in working order except for a little tarnish here and there. Some questions:

1) Will Meade or Celestron equatorial wedges fit the Q6?
2) Sources of camera adapters for the axial fitting on the control box?
3) Only eyepiece is a 16mm Brandon? Any recommendations?

Thanks,

Jim

I have a quantum-4 and the base of the four fits the 8" wedge. My recollection is that 6 would fit on the same wedge. I have a Televue 32mm in addition to the 16mm University Optics Konig which is an excellent eyepiece. Since you have the 6 you can use 2" eyepieces. I have an excellent 55mm UO Plossl

September 14, 2007 05:57 PM Forum: Politics

Thompson Overtakes Guiliani

Posted By Robert Pasken

Jim Babcock said:

What the base knows about Thompson is:

1 - Any Republican is better than any of the extremists that are running in the Democrat primary.
2 - His record on issues that we care about has to be better than the other choices running in the Republican primary.
3 - Evangelicals (which I am not one) that I know will continue to vote Republican as long as Democrats are so bigoted against them in their remarks and actions.

It is amazing how the left used to be all about inclusion, diversity and just getting along. These days there is no talk about diversity; everyone must be mind numb robots reciting the Democrat Party talking points. With groups like moveon.org, they are now so extreme that they sound as bad as David Duke on the right.


It is the evangelicals that are bigotted and self-righteous. As a Conservative Christian I cann't vote republican because the bigotted evangelicals control the party. Everything they say and do is the antithesis of what a Christian should be and do.


For your daily dose of inclusion, diversity and just getting along listen to the spokespeople of the republicans Rush and Ann.

September 24, 2007 08:42 PM Forum: Politics

Has anyone been fundamentally changed?

Posted By Robert Pasken

Jim Babcock said:

Jim and Patrick do a great job of laying it out.

In my experience most of those that in the past who have called themselves centrists or swing voters were really just Democrats that like to make themself feel important and smarter by saying how open minded they are, when in fact what they are really doing is only voting Republican when the Democrats run someone that even they can see will obviosly do real harm. Think about it. If you were a swing voter does this apply to you?


I am a conservative voter, just not a neocon. I reallt do ask who will do the most good for thge country rather than a neocon who just blindly does what the schrub says to do. I made the mistake of voting for Carter, but an even bigger mistake voting the second time for Reagan. You need to ask yourself are you conservative or just a neocon who does what he is told.