Posts Made By: James Lacey

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

Don't you just love the gaming culture. I believe it has ruined many young minds.

I'm actually a little familiar with Helldivers, because I have friends whose sons play it, and phrases like, "Here fascist catch!" are things they say to one another all the time. Helldivers is a satire of fascism, and the premise is that you are a soldier in a ludicrously over-the-top militaristic government that uses propaganda to promote endless war. It shouldn't be lost on anyone that the game is also a parody of America. But when these kids say these things to one another, it doesn't have any deeper meaning other than they heard it in the game. I'm surprised one of the casings didn't have "skibbdi toilet riz" engraved on it at this point. If you spend any time around school-age kids these days, you will hear all kinds of popular culture references from games, memes, and internet culture that will make no sense to you.

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Wrong again. Thank the suspect's Dad who turned him in.

I wouldn't be surprised if the shooter believed he would be hailed as a hero. It's not uncommon in these kinds of shootings.

When John Wilkes Booth and his merry band of co-conspirators shot and killed Lincoln, and also tried and failed to kill the Vice President, Andrew Johnson, and Lincoln's secretary of state, William H. Seward, they all thought they would be heralded as heroes. Booth believed that the assassination of Lincoln was a righteous act and anticipated positive public acclaim. Instead, while he was hiding out in the pine thickets of Maryland with the help of Confederate sympathizers, he was aghast to read in papers brought to him that even the South disapproved of his actions. Mostly because he planned to escape to the South, believing he would be welcomed with open arms. Instead, many Southerners realized that Lincoln was their best bet for a "kind" reconciliation, and that Booth had ruined that opportunity for them. During Booth's capture, he was shot in the neck and paralyzed, and it took him three hours to die. In his final moments, his last words were "Tell my mother I died for my country," and after asking that his hands be raised so that he could see them, he uttered "Useless, useless." Booth ultimately succumbed to asphyxiation because he could no longer breathe due to the wound. I've always thought someone should create an alternate history show where Lincoln was not killed; maybe shot but survived, sort of like "The Man in the High Tower," which is a what-if history where the Allies lost WWII and America was invaded and taken over in the West by Japan, and Germany in the East.

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

The shooter was from Utah, he's white, he's a Mormon, and comes from a gun loving republican family. His family turned him in. I guess you were wrong in your knee jerk assumptions?

Rich will never admit he was wrong, and on top of that, he'll claim you are an intellectual coward when he doesn't even have the stones to own up to his knee-jerk reaction. He'll merely continue to spin and flood the field with bullshit and do everything in his power to distract from yet another of his failures. It's downright comical at this point. We've all seen it so many times, and it's the proverbial broken record with him.

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

If true I guess Kirk wasn't far enough to the right.

There is speculation that this could be far-right on far-right violence.

There is a guy named Nick Fuentes who leads a far-right Christian nationalist group called Groypers. There has been a long-running animosity between Kirk and Groypers. Some of the engravings on the bullet casings are internet memes associated with the far-right Groypers. However, this is all just speculation. The engravings could be nothing more than the equivalent of gaming and internet culture trash talking.

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

"There is speculation that this could be far-right on far-right violence."

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/12/us/video/charlie-kirk-wife-erika-first-public-comments-digvid

There was a single assassin with a motivation unknown at this time. Did you listen to her comments? It's "they" not "he", and the messaging is quite ominous...

Yes, I agree. So far, we have a single shooter with a largely unknown motivation, but I think we can say with certainty that Rich and lots of other people on the right leaped to some pretty wild conclusions. I've tried to be absolutely clear that anything I'm posting is entirely speculation, unlike Rich and his right-wing friends, who were convinced it had to be a "psychotic leftist democrat."

From what I've seen so far, I don't think this white male, raised in a conservative family, in a conservative state, who is Mormon, and was steeped in gun culture and apparently online internet meme and gaming culture, is going to fit neatly into any category of description.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I don't know.  Perhaps the right side of the political aisle will do what the Left ALWAYS does when someone they believe was murdered, and they will start burning down buildings and shooting people, like the left did over the "SUMMER of LOVE", when they riled up angry mobs of leftists by the 1000s to go out and burn buildings down, after George Floyd died of a drug overdose of Fentanyl?

Maybe the right side of the political aisle will do as the Left ALWAYS does and they'll go out and murder those on the left the way the leftist Democrat anarchists of Antifa and BLM did, when they got their angry mobs of 1000s of crazies together killing Donald Trump supporters and cops on the street?

Maybe JD Vance will go on TV, to a late night talk show as Kamala Harris did saying that the Antifa Mobs of violent thugs and the BLM mobs of violent thugs were not going to stop and saying "and they shouldn't stop" as the Democrat Vice President Kamala Harris did when thugs were burning down buildings and murdering people all over the nation?

Do you think JD Vance will do that, and egg on their violence??  

Do you think he'll do that?


Nah, I don't think he will.  

The CATO organization, which is hardly a liberal think tank, given that one of its co-founders and benefactors is one of the Koch brothers, released a paper on September 11th, looking at political violence in the US, which concludes it's scarce.

Politically Motivated Violence Is Rare in the United States

They have several interesting tables and graphs that clearly show that right-leaning ideologies are responsible for the vast majority of politically motivated violence and deaths in the US. Keep in mind, this paper is from the CATO institute.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Will the followers of Charlie Kirk do what the violent radical left did after George Floyd died, and burn down buildings and cause mayhem, destruction, arson, beatings, looting, and murder?

Will the conservative right do just what the conservative left did?  Will the right cause the country to go into complete chaos because Charlie Kirk was murdered?

Will the conservative right set up areas of cities as was done in the summer of love, as was done in Seattle where parts of that city were occupied by far left radicals, permitting them to effectively shut down the city, because they were angry?

Will the conservative right egg on people to get out in the street the way the left did?  Will JD Vance do as Kamala Harris did and tell the world that angry mobs needed to get out there and do their chaotic dance, and then say to the world, "they should not stop" as Democrat VP Kamala Harris did?

I wonder if that will happen here after the political assassination of Charlie Kirk.

I seriously doubt it.  The political right doesn't have mobs of crazies that are egged on by their political leaders like the left does.  

What is there for the right to protest? That the de facto leader of the MAGA-GOP, the POTUS himself, was completely wrong about who the shooter would be? That you were wrong about who the shooter would be? Should they protest that a young white male, from a conservative MAGA family, in a conservative red state, who was raised in gun culture, and steeped in online internet memes and gaming culture, is the shooter? Where exactly is the injustice that is even comparable to what was done to George Floyd, and the history of racism in the US? Yes, Kirk was shot and killed, but not by some "psychotic leftist democrat." As far as we know, the shooter acted alone, and there is no broader conspiracy or systemic issue to protest. Holy Cow! You are the absolute king of what-about-ery, distractions, moving the goal posts, and strawmen. Anything to avoid admitting you were wrong; what an intellectual coward you once again prove yourself to be. How about this? How about the right quits claiming they are being persecuted, and quits trying to turn Kirk into some martyr, and instead admits the facts as we know them today simply don't fit their narrative.

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Well stated and consistent with the following video and well worth the view:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw7Q0aczA2Q

Not to mention, we already know what Democrats would do if a similar event happened, since it just happened in June of this year when Melissa Hortman, a State senator of Michigan, and her husband were shot and killed by a right-wing Trump supporter. Not to mention the other State senator and his wife, who were wounded in the same crime spree. When this happened, Democrats called for gun reform, and of course, right-wingers made fun of the murders. Trump himself said acknowledging the act or calling anyone to offer condolences would be a waste of time, and he skipped the funeral. And no one on the left called for the Republican Party to be labelled a terrorist organization, or that they should use the full force of the Federal Government to punish institutions and individuals falsely accused of being complicit or enablers. We don't have to imagine what the Democrats would do if a similar event happened because it just happened, and Rich is so cocooned in his echo chamber that he doesn't even know about it. Meanwhile, Trump and Republicans are acting like Charlie Kirk is some national hero, and ordering flags to be flown at half mast, awarding him the medal of freedom posthumously, and flying Kirk's body on Air Force 2 to AZ. It's actually kind of nauseating to see how much the right is politicizing Kirk's death for their political gain.

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Davis's endless inability to recognize that he's being trolled is a constant source of entertainment.

And of course, he proves your point in his very next post, and doesn't even realize he has proved your point. That is some next-level lack of self-awareness right there. His lack of critical-thinking skills, inability to accept new information and change his opinion, and self-awareness are all primary reasons I don't believe he has a BME. Even an education in a soft skills degree program teaches you these skills.

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

Well, according to him, engineers repair things.  That alone demonstrates that he's completely clueless about what engineers do.  He's obviously not a degreed engineer.

Oh wait, isn't he educated in physics and nursing, too?  That explains all the anti-science and anti-vax crap he believes.

Reminds me of an old light-bulb joke. How many electrical engineers does it take to change a light bulb? None. They have a technician do it.