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July 13, 2025 01:07 PM Forum: Politics

Surprise, Surprise: Trump's Tariffs Fail To Produce US Manufacturing!

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Sure I did, and of course that is why you can't refute it and wrote screed after screed trying to spin your way out of your lies, but then isn't that what you always do James?

Here, we can go over it again, and rehash what we established earlier.

1. You got angry because I pointed out that You and the rest of the leftists here were making claims that the
Stock Markets were going to crash and that the Donald Trump economy was going to tank and that he was going to Destroy the economy.

2. You then called me out as having lied about your assertions, and accused me of putting words in your mouth, which I did nothing of the sort.

3. I then went through your postings for about a 2 minute Period and found your exact words you wrote to Russ Carroll whereby you claimed JUST THAT, saying that because of the tariffs Trump was going to put in place on other countries, it was going to DESTROY the economy even more than he already had.

4. When I posted YOUR exact words, there was no way You could deny it. Now you made a claim that I was making up bullshit about you, and that You never said what I claimed you said. Of course you do this all the time James, where you deny your very words.

5. So now you're getting angrier and angrier with each post, but I'm owning You James by posting facts that you can't refute. You are so pissed off that now you are placing qualifiers on WHY you made your absurd radical leftist claims that the economy is being destroyed.

Funny thing is that the economy is going along great now, with money coming in from tariffs as well as the Inflation being nearly non-existent under Donald Trump. The unemployment rate has dropped and is at 4.1%. Jobs are growing and did so last month more than the predicted numbers by the Feds. Donald Trump took it to Iran, and they have thrown in the towel. The border down south is essentially closed when Joe Biden said that he couldn't close the border. I guess you learned how to lie from Joe Biden, eh James? Everything is MILES Better under Trump. Deal with it. The country is getting back to normalcy. Too bad for you.

I’m not angry, and you’re not capable of making me angry, and just because you keep repeating the same mischaracterization of Trump’s tariff history and twisting what was said and why doesn’t make you right.

The following has been explained over and over, but you keep ignoring it. There’s a difference between being wrong and lying. By your standard, you’d be the worst liar here. You’ve made plenty of predictions about the collapse of America at the hands of leftists, socialists, or whoever your imaginary enemy is that week. None of them came true. Take your recent obsession with Zohran Mamdani, for example. You’ve been pushing a bunch of wild claims about him that come from right-wing propaganda. I’m confident none of it will happen, and by your definition, that makes you a liar, too.

One thing you consistently leave out is that Trump hasn’t been consistent on tariffs. You act like his policies were rock solid when in reality, they changed constantly. At the time these so-called “lies” were told, no one could have predicted he would backtrack as much as he did. His approach was unpredictable and all over the place. Markets and other countries have largely tuned him out because they know his tariff policies are not sustainable. Even many conservatives wish he would move on from it, since the policies don’t work and only make the GOP look worse.

I don’t expect you to acknowledge any of this, because nothing you’ve said so far suggests you’re interested in honest discussion. You seem entirely committed to your narrative and assume you’re right by default. That’s not how facts work, but that’s how you operate.

July 14, 2025 02:33 PM Forum: Politics

USA heading down a grim road....

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

"Yes, Oh yes we are definitely heading towards a police state by deporting criminal illegal alien rapists, murderers, child molesters, MS13 gang members, child traffickers, Tren de Aragua Gang members, illegal aliens who are on Medicaid which deprives deserving and needy Americans from getting it."

The vast majority of those who are being deported to meet Stephen Miller's daily quota are not any of the above. The vast majority of those are strawberry pickers who pick strawberries, taco vendors who make tacos, day laborers/construction workers at Home Depot parking lots that do construction, car wash workers at car washes who wash cars, etc...

History is littered with examples of where social injustice for a group eventually endangers the entire society. It's an entirely valid point that we should care deeply about how we treat the most marginalized people in our society. I would not expect Rich ever to understand or yield an inch from his usual intransigence, no matter how much discussion takes place. What he thinks is his "confidence" is a stubborn inflexibility that prevents him from acknowledging other valid viewpoints. He seems to think it's a strength. Still, most of us recognize it as a weakness, since most of us at some point came to understand that the world is complex and often not easily categorized into dichotomous categories like good and evil, or wrong and right. There are many shades of grey and complexities in the world that cannot be understood with such a simplistic viewpoint.

July 14, 2025 10:58 PM Forum: Politics

USA heading down a grim road....

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

No stubborn inflexibility here.

I just don't subscribe to the lies of radical leftists/Marxists like yourself, and I don't buy into your regular bullshit the this nation is Systemically racist against black and brown people.

That's a total lie and I really don't give 2 shits that you wear the radically leftist/Marxist mantra of complete bullshit on your sleeve that the Black man can't get a leg up because of the Systemically racist White Man.

How did you get ahead James and how are You thriving if this nation is so systemically racist against Black and Brown people?

You got on here one day boasting about how You and Jim Brown were so wealthy that neither of You 2 had to worry about any money problems for the rest of your days.

Here's a suggestion, take the chip off your shoulder because you're a black man, and quit the nonsense of "this nation is systemically racist", and that the White man is keeping the black man down.

Then you might have some credibility, but your BS today is just that, BS.

This reply of yours only proves what I've been saying all along, and that is, you are incapable of accepting any other viewpoint as valid, except for the ones that you gatekeep as the truth. The hilarious thing, as usual, is that you don't even realize you're validating what we say about you all the time. Your entire response is one giant strawman and ad hominem laced with some whopper lies!

I know it's pointless to expect you to hear a different perspective, but here goes anyway. The claim that systemic racism in the USA exists does not mean that every person of color is unable to succeed, or that all whites are oppressors. It does mean, however, that there are disparities in some of our governmental institutions and systems. Education, housing, policing, and employment are all places where there has historically been systemic racism. This is a bona fide fact that is easily supported by the historical record. The existence of some successful people of color doesn't erase that past or its current existence. Just like one person overcoming substance abuse doesn't mean there aren't more people who need help. You would think this would be obvious, but here we are.

We all know you will never yield an inch or acknowledge any other valid viewpoint, but the points raised above are not made up by "radical Marxists." They are fully supported by decades of data and research, as well as shared experiences from people across the political spectrum. Undoubtedly, you will rant, rave, name-call, and make up more strawmen, but it doesn't change the fact that you are clueless about what systemic racism is, and its history and role in our country.

July 15, 2025 02:09 PM Forum: Politics

USA heading down a grim road....

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

I could have sworn that you just said that Illegals get NO Medicaid? Did you not say that?

Gee, I'll have to look back... Well, what do you know...

Dave Cotterell stated:

"As undocumented/illegal as they are they do not get ANY medicaid, or government benefits. They are not eligible".

Can you tell me why you just lied?

Maybe he was just mistaken. Or maybe with new information, he has changed his mind. In any case, you seriously need to go look up the definition of lying, because you throw that accusation around way too freely. And of course, as we've said many times now, you fail to apply your standard for lying to yourself.

Dave was initially discussing traditional Medicare; he did not mention emergency Medicare, which is the focus of the article. And when Dave said, "or government benefits," I took it to mean benefits other than Medicare. So, you are nitpicking here a lot, and taking what he said out of context, to call him a liar for no good reason other than to shut down the conversation concerning the actual cost illegal immigrants pose to the Medicare system. Which, despite your nitpicking and name-calling, appears to be extremely low.

July 15, 2025 02:52 PM Forum: Politics

USA heading down a grim road....

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by David Cotterell
James, I appreciate your support.

I am continually amazed that I even bother engaging with Richard. He always "wins". According to him.

And whether or not he wins, or I win, or you or anyone else wins we all do so in the realization that we here are, at most, a dozen guys
on a chat forum that no one else reads or cares about, "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing".

Why we keep coming back for another kick at the cat is a mystery to me.

Dave

Yes, as I've said many times, the enduring mystery of this forum is why we bother with Rich at all. He does provide quite the antagonist, though, and I keep wondering if one of these days he will learn how to interact with others healthily, and finally understand that other viewpoints are valid and worthy. Or, as you said, and in other words, we take another kick at the cat. By the way, thanks for that idiom, it's not one I had heard before, and it fits.

July 15, 2025 03:47 PM Forum: Politics

USA heading down a grim road....

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by David Cotterell

"According to the Oxford Dictionary of Idioms, the expression is "Canadian informal" and bears the meaning of "An opportunity to achieve something." The supposition of its having a Canadian origin is seemingly confirmed by a locus of printed references (the earliest from 1953) that almost entirely come from Canada or north central U.S. states (Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota).

"Canadians are every bit as fond of their pets as are folks from other nations, thus it should not be presumed that custom among hard-bitten, rabid hockey fans had spawned the term. Instead, this feline-unfriendly idiom probably began as a misparsing of "Another kick at the can (or tin)," a term for which printed references date to 1909: "Children's games in Orkney. Kick the tinnie."

--Snopes

Yes! I took it to mean that kicking a cat is difficult, since they are so fast and alert, so the meaning is taking another try at a challenging task. Idioms can be funny in the sense that they can sound horrific, such as "don't throw the baby out with the bath water," until you know what the meaning is exactly.

July 15, 2025 05:46 PM Forum: Politics

Our resident communist here stated that the stock market was going to crash and not recover as a result of tariffs being instituted by Trump and the fact that he was elected. Why was he wrong again.

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

It does depend upon what you buy:

"The uptick in inflation was driven by a range of higher prices. The cost of gasoline rose 1% just from May to June, while grocery prices increased 0.3%. Appliance prices jumped for the third straight month. Toys, clothes, audio equipment, shoes, and sporting goods all got more expensive, and are all heavily imported."
"The cost of rent rose 3.8% in June compared with a year ago..." "Travel prices have generally declined in recent months as fewer international tourists visit the U.S."

Tariff-driven price increases in the U.S. are real. Prices are increasing for many everyday consumer goods, including paper products, toiletries, and household cleaning supplies. Essentially, anything a typical family would consume and use on a weekly basis. I see this not only in our grocery bill, but also in many items I have on subscription delivery. Every upcoming regularly scheduled delivery sends me an email to inform me of a price increase on an item we use regularly. Thank goodness I finally pulled the trigger on a hybrid vehicle before the tariff effects started to kick in; 45 mpg never sounded so good.

July 16, 2025 08:15 PM Forum: Politics

USA heading down a grim road....

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Oh, I thought YOU claimed previously that Illegal aliens didn't get anything from the gov't paid for by taxpayers?

I know that the Socialist Canuck up north made that claim. He doesn't have a clue about MY gov't spending and he just burps up whatever some leftist tells him to burp up.

Because that uninformed foolish dude feels the need to just say various things that he doesn't know, surely doesn't make anything he says a factual statement.

According to Stephen Camarota of the Center for Immigration Studies, approximately $200 Billion goes out of the gov't coffers each year to support ILLEGAL aliens who enter this country ILLEGALLY.

So then what it actually amounts to, is that ILLEGAL aliens ARE a burden on the American taxpayer.

Here are the facts. Illegals get PAID healthcare by Medicaid. ON the backs of the American taxpayers.

Illegal aliens use public services FAR more than legal citizens do. The difference is striking.

There are 4 million children of illegal aliens being Schooled Publicly at a massive cost to the taxpayers each year, which costs $68,000,000,000 annually.

That is a direct cost to the taxpayer.

There is the cost of the Emergency room services that illegal aliens access all over the nation for any of their illnesses.

Since ILLEGAL aliens make up a good portion of the prisons in this nation, that is another burden to the US taxpayers.

I suppose I could go on and on with the costs that are incurred by illegal aliens, such as getting into auto accidents in this country and they don't have insurance, which is a burden to the nation and the American citizens who they maim with their vehicles. How many drunk driving vehicular manslaughter charges are caused by ILLEGAL aliens?

Also, there is this thing called rape, murder, child molestation, etc that a good number of ILLEGAL aliens have engaged in throughout the nation.

Not to mention, the toll that it takes on a family and friends of the young women who have been raped, beaten, and murdered

We recently found out that ILLEGAL aliens were exploiting children on a pot farm and that children were being forced to WORK at this pot farm. Tom Homan indicated that ICE rescued 10 underage children who were essentially modern day slaves. That's JUST fine with leftist Democrats isn't it.

Also, criminal rings that steal from the gov't which involve illegal aliens, things like Medicare fraud and SS fraud occur all the time, and its to the tune sometimes of Hundreds of millions of dollars.

Now then, the leftist apologists here would say well gee, American citizens also do all of the above, murder, rape, incest, fraud, etc...

Yes, but we don't have a choice as to whether US citizens do what they do, but we as Americans DO have a choice as to whether we allow MORE of it to occur by letting ILLEGAL alien criminals into this country.

Personally, I'm SICK to death of reading about Young women being tortured, raped, and murdered by criminal ILLEGAL aliens.

Since I would bet dollars to doughnuts that NOT ONE SINGLE leftist on this forum has ever bothered to care, nor have any of you leftists even heard of the names of some of the women raped, sodomized, and murdered in this nation by ILLEGAL aliens, amounting to a heinous crime that DID NOT NEED to occur, I'll name a few for you.

1st is Jocelyn Nungarry, 12 years old, raped, sodomized, beaten, and murdered by 2 ILLEGAL alien criminals. I won't mention the names of these cretins of humanity. These vile scumbags threw her body into a ditch like garbage.

2nd is Rachel Morin, a mother who was raped and Murdered by an ILLEGAL alien. She was a 37 year old mother of 5 who was Murdered while Hiking by a Criminal ILLEGAL alien and I won't mention the name of the scumbag. She was violently beaten, raped, and then murdered.

3rd is Mollie Tibbets, a young college student who was out Jogging. She was stalked by a scumbag ILLEGAL alien, who grabbed her, dragged her into a field where he kidnapped her, beat her and Murdered her. She was all of 20 years old.

4th is Laken Riley a 22 year old nursing student at the Univ. of Georgia who was beaten so severely in the head and face that it disfigured her skull. Joe Biden who couldn't care less about citizens murdered by ILLEGAL aliens was so callous as to Mispronounce the murdered woman's name in front of the world, and called her Lincoln Riley. She was beaten and murdered by an ILLEGAL alien and then left in a field.

So those are the names of just a few of the murdered US citizens at the hands of ILLEGAL aliens in this nation. Not that any of you ever heard of them, but maybe you bleeding heart leftist/Marxist Democrats ought to know.

I know that this will fall on entirely deaf ears, but you have done at least two extremely dishonest things in your reply. The first one is that you moved the goalposts from "How much do illegals cost us in Medicare?" to "How much do illegals cost us entirely?" The second dishonest thing is that you have completely ignored any contribution that illegals make to state and federal tax coffers and social services deductions. It would not be surprising at all if the overall cost of illegals is less than that of citizens in some red states. Then you make some specious claims about how "illegals make up a good portion of the prisons in the nation...," when the overall percentage is 5-7% and you completely ignore that illegal immigrants are about half as likely to be incarcerated as native-born Americans. To make things even worse for your side, both undocumented and documented immigrant groups consistently experience far lower per-capita incarceration rates than U.S.-born citizens. Then you go on to appeal to emotion, while ignoring that both undocumented and documented immigrants commit violent crimes at a much lower per-capita rate than U.S.-born citizens. To sum it up, you have made an intellectually dishonest post that cherry-picks data, commits more logical fallacies than I can reasonably cover given how much time I want to waste on you today, resorts to name-calling, and uses abusive rhetorical language. Congratulations! You are, if nothing else, consistent and predictable.

July 22, 2025 04:23 PM Forum: Politics

Now ILLEGAL aliens are staging their own kidnappings and faking them, and then they hire lawyers to promote their corrupt acts. Throw her in Prison for 10 years.

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by Richard Davis
Perhaps then, this will stop. My guess is that the plan was to say that she was kidnapped by ICE, then have the lawyer sue the gov't on her behalf, hoping they could essentially embezzle millions of dollars with a scheme to defraud the USA.

Maybe the lawyer is involved as well.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6375807809112?msockid=1ed65a6159cd6a213a0448a858356b0a

It's an isolated incident. There is no widespread evidence that illegal aliens are faking kidnappings in large numbers. So, yes, she needs to face justice for her actions, but drawing broad generalizations like, "Now ILLEGAL aliens are staging their kidnappings and faking them..." is a bit ridiculous. Besides, your thread titles are already long enough. Do you need to make them redundant by saying "staging their kidnappings" and "faking them?" Isn't that the same thing? I wonder how many faked kidnappings or abductions are staged annually by citizens? It doesn't take a genius to understand that whatever the number is, it's way higher per capita than those carried out by illegal aliens. In short, this is just another sensationalist clickbait right-wing headline, intended to whip the MAGA faithful into a frothing frenzy.

July 22, 2025 08:57 PM Forum: Politics

USA heading down a grim road....

Posted By James Lacey

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Hmm.... this might just be the easiest statement to destroy with mathematical facts that has ever been stated on this forum.

I thought you claimed to be some sort of mathematical genius (according to your own statements in the past) but yet the very numbers you presented above contradict your very assertions.

Did you really want to stick with your statement above?

Your own numbers belie the ignorance that you are exhibiting there.

Apparently no other math genius wanted to challenge the nonsense you wrote above so again it appears that it is up to me to put you into reality.

So then, by Leftist Democrat accounts, the number of ILLEGAL aliens here in the nation is 11 Million. It has been at 11 Million for 50 years now, according to Democrats.

So then doing some simple math in my head, the ratio of illegal aliens in this nation is 11Million/330 Million.

For a self-promoting and self-described math genius like yourself, doesn't that work out to 3.3% of the US Population being ILLEGAL aliens?

Well if that IS the case and YOU yourself just stated above that the Prison system was occcupied at a percentage rate of 5% - 7% being ILLEGAL aliens, then since they make up 3.3% of the population then ILLEGAL aliens commit crimes for which they are sentenced at twice the rate of their ratio of people/population.

I mean to say, that if a certain Demographic in society (i.e. ILLEGAL aliens) commits crimes and is sentenced for those crimes at 2x the rate of the ratio of their population in society, then NO they do not commit crimes at a lesser rate than the native born population.

Now, I challenge you to present your source for the numbers you cited above and the source for your statements above, because my guess is that you simply made up your statements/numbers or you simply pulled them right out of your ass as is typical with you.

Needless to say My guess for the excuse you will now promote for your numbers above, will be to blame the legal system, claiming it is racist against ILLEGAL aliens.

You know James, here's a fact for you. Black men commit 51% of all the murders in this nation, and yet comprise about 6% of the entire population.

So tell me, are young black men committing the majority of murders because of a systemically racist society?

I'll check back for your answers, but I'm guessing that you'll be intellectually impotent to come up with a cogent reason.

Comparing the 3.3% population rate to the 5-7% prison share does not automatically double the crime rate of illegal immigrants. You are ignoring a significant amount of meaningful context, such as the nature of the offenses and whether detentions are being included in the data. There are lots of studies that do support a much lower violent crime rate for illegal immigrants and incarceration because of it. Regarding black men and homicide rates, it's a meaningless statistic unless you also consider other factors such as socioeconomic status that explain the troubling phenomenon far better than color or race. Like it or not, violent crime tends to be highly concentrated in economically disadvantaged communities, which, as it comes as no surprise, often have large black populations, and the reasons for that have everything to do with poverty, lack of education and opportunity, and even systemic racism. Most of us have only to ask ourselves, "Where would I be if I had been poor and black in the ghetto?" to understand what a huge disadvantage it is to live in such an area.

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Our resident communist here stated that the stock market was going to crash and not recover as a result of tariffs being instituted by Trump and the fact that he was elected. Why was he wrong again.

USA heading down a grim road....

Now ILLEGAL aliens are staging their own kidnappings and faking them, and then they hire lawyers to promote their corrupt acts. Throw her in Prison for 10 years.

USA heading down a grim road....

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