Posts Made By: James Lacey

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

"Trump's deportation vow alarms Texas construction industry"

"It would devastate our industry, we wouldn't finish our highways, we wouldn't finish our schools," said Stan Marek, CEO of Marek, a Houston-based commercial and residential construction giant. "Housing would disappear. I think they'd lose half their labor."

"That Texas relies on undocumented labor is one of the state's open secrets, despite Republicans' tough-on-immigration stances."

"Trump's sweeping campaign pledges likely have the support of Republican border hawks in Texas, where a state-led border mission called Operation Lone Star started in 2021 and has cost taxpayers more than $11 billion. The effort has included deployment of thousands of Texas National Guard and state police officers to the border, construction of barriers that include fencing, walls and razor wire on or near the banks of the Rio Grande, and a floating buoy barrier in the river."

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/23/g-s1-35465/trump-deportation-migrants-immigrants-texas-construction-industry-border-security

Enjoy him Texas, you deserve him...

Originally Posted by David Cotterell

Trump: "On January 20th, as one of my many first Executive Orders, I will sign all necessary documents to charge Mexico and Canada a 25% Tariff on ALL products coming into the United States..."

So a 25% sales tax on American consumers, actually...   

This is going to hurt us here.  Badly.  For no fault on our part. 

Sadly, we get what you all voted for.

Dave

Originally Posted by James Brown

This bolded part is premised on an oversimplification James.  Trump might have the desire to enact his rhetoric - but he does not have a magic wand to wave causing the deportation of the entirety of the Texas (or other states) construction laborer base.  So, expect a lot more rhetoric and far less deportations than promised.  I personally believe that it will be a huge, worthy, but probably unattainable goal to deport the active criminals, much less the honest guy who has been drywalling in Houston for 10 years.

Same deal with the pentagon and much of Trump's other overheated campaign promises.  Implementation is not going to be easy, or even possible, even if Trump has the will (which I doubt).  It is not like the Generals are going to roll over like puppies.

So in my view, we as a nation (and our allies Dave) are not going to be OK just because it is "campaign rhetoric."  No, we are going to be OK because any actual implementation is going to look a lot different than the worst case scenarios being floated on the left post-election.

We owe it to ourselves to create a score-card to track some of this stuff.  I'll think about that, but if anyone has a good starting list of campaign rhetoric that worries you, feel free to post it.

Originally Posted by James Brown

This bolded part is premised on an oversimplification James.  Trump might have the desire to enact his rhetoric - but he does not have a magic wand to wave causing the deportation of the entirety of the Texas (or other states) construction laborer base.  So, expect a lot more rhetoric and far less deportations than promised.  I personally believe that it will be a huge, worthy, but probably unattainable goal to deport the active criminals, much less the honest guy who has been drywalling in Houston for 10 years.

Same deal with the pentagon and much of Trump's other overheated campaign promises.  Implementation is not going to be easy, or even possible, even if Trump has the will (which I doubt).  It is not like the Generals are going to roll over like puppies.

So in my view, we as a nation (and our allies Dave) are not going to be OK just because it is "campaign rhetoric."  No, we are going to be OK because any actual implementation is going to look a lot different than the worst case scenarios being floated on the left post-election.

We owe it to ourselves to create a score-card to track some of this stuff.  I'll think about that, but if anyone has a good starting list of campaign rhetoric that worries you, feel free to post it.

1. Mass Deportations
2. Tariffs
3. Abolish the Department of Education (won't happen for many reasons)
4. Office of Government Efficiency (whose real purpose seems to be dismantling the Washington establishment, swamp, lifelong bureaucrats, etc.)
5. Using DOJ to go after his political enemies (which, of course, is what he thinks his opponents did to him and others)
6. Purging the upper echelons of the military ranks (apparently for disloyalty?)
7. Roll back the clock on anti-discrimination policy (i.e., DEI, wokeness, whatever you want to call it).
8. Surrendering to Russia in Ukraine
9. Withdrawing from NATO (not likely since I believe Congress passed a law making it impossible for the President to do this unilaterally)
10. What else?

Originally Posted by James Brown

Just today:

22.  Roll back any student loan debt relief

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

That assumes they actually applied for asylum when they arrived at the border and most of 'em probably didn't...

Meanwhile: "But Mexico’s president suggested — at least, for now — that she’s not going to bend the knee to Trump. If it’s a trade war he wants, a trade war he may get — with all the collateral damage that comes with it." "Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum says that the president-elect’s threat to enact massive tariffs on Mexican imports would lead to mutually assured economic destruction."

https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/trump-tariffs-mexico-president-claudia-sheinbaum-rcna181923

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

Economic illiterate stated:   then it isn't a tariff, is it. 


Well, YES it is a tariff. You are free to go have a dispute with your own gov't.   

https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/trade-commerce/tariff-tarif/2024/menu-eng.html

From your gov't website above:  

Canada.ca CBSA Trade Canadian Customs Tariff

Customs Tariff 2024

The current Canadian Customs Tariff files show the tariff treatments from countries with which Canada has tariff arrangements as well as preferential tariff treatments for products coming from countries with which Canada has a free trade agreement. They are updated at least once a year, or whenever necessary. The CBSA issues customs notices to the importing community whenever there are amendments.

I'm assuming you can read English since you've been able to write it?  

Did you notice the words there "Customs Tariff"

Do you see that word tariff?   Do you know what that means?  It means tariff.  


As for your other statement  "in order to be a tariff would have to be only on US goods", all I can say is what??  HUH??  What??  

 Hmm.... I see nothing there that says in that website that the Customs TARIFF is ONLY on US Goods.  

Can you point out where only US goods get a tariff?  


BTW, Gee.... it even has your own gov'ts letterhead, doesn't it?  


Get a clue.

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

4402.90.90 00 Wood charcoal (including shell or nut charcoal), whether or not agglomerated. - Other - Other TNE 6.5%

Originally Posted by Richard Davis

4402.90.90 00 Wood charcoal (including shell or nut charcoal), whether or not agglomerated. - Other - Other TNE 6.5%

Originally Posted by Brian McFarland

You have a point there.  My ability to predict the future is pretty abysmal anyway.