Michael Koons said:Are there any "serious" 3rd party options out there? Who is best organized for the mid term election cycle? Any thoughts about "valid" alternatives that most represent citizen's long term interests?
I just don't know about the status of the reform, green, etc.
Thanks
Hi Michael
Depends on what you mean by 'serious'. Most of the third parties are serious as a heart attack, but have infinitesimally small chance of winning many elections. A massive change in electorate attitudes would be necessary for much third party success.
Greens and Libertarians can get up to one or two percent of the vote. A little higher in some localities.
Looked at one way-- If two percent of the vote were counted nationally, that would be two libertarian senators, two green senators. About 8 libertarian and 8 green representatives. That would be enough to begin affecting policy because certain close legislative votes would have to woo coalition with the third parties. The tiny third parties could affect the legislation, as the 600 pound gorilla parties modify the legislation to buy third party vote. Neither Libertarians or Greens would just naturally be in the back pocket of Republicans or Democrats, and on some issues the Libertarians and Greens would be allied.
But since the vote is spread evenly, the reality is that no Libertarians or Greens get elected to national office hardly anywhere, and a certain percentage of minority voters' views are perpetually un-represented in Washington.
The third parties occasionally win on the local or state levels.
Reform party or others may be stronger than Libertarians and Greens, dunno. Haven't followed the strength of the Greens except noting what percent they win in national elections.
Libertarians have a strength that they manage to run a lot of candidates, and have done this for many years. It is fairly difficult/expensive to even get on a ballot, and requires some minimum amount of organization to consistently put candidates on the ballot, even if they almost always lose.
I also like Libertarians because they never change the message. Libertarians intentionally try to make the platform as logically self-consistent as possible. Libertarians do not oppose position A simply because a rival party advocates position A. The platform comes from principles.
It is a matter of taste whether enough voters agree with the principles or the platform, but at least the Libertarians try to be self-consistent on the matter. For instance, Republicans are pro-choice on schools and anti-choice on abortion. Democrats are pro-choice on abortion and anti-choice on schools. Libertarians are pro-choice on just about everything possible.
http://www.lp.org/
As an aside, some claim Glenn Beck is a libertarian, but IMO he is a rather pee-poor simulation of one. Only a few agreement points really.