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Posts Made By: Carlos E. Hernandez

May 19, 2004 05:12 AM Forum: Solar System Observing

Jupiter sketch 5-16

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Thomas,

A very good observation of Jupiter. You have recorded the Great Red Spot (GRS) region and the impressive blue festoon within the EZ very well. I look forward to your future observations.

Carlos

May 20, 2004 08:08 PM Forum: CCD Imaging and Processing/Solar System

Q4 as Seen by CCD and Eyeball

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Dennis,

Thank you for posting your excellent images of Comet Neat Q4. You captured the coma and tail structure of the comet very well in your mosaic on your web site. The simulated views of the comet are very accurate as well. I too prefer the views of the comet through 7 x 50 binoculars than a telescope. I have posted a drawing made of the comet near the Beehive cluster (M44) on May 15, 2004 at 01:30 U.T. I believe that it gives a good impression of what the comet appeared like visually when it was brighter.
http://www.astromart.com/forums/viewpost.asp?forum_post_id=213194&poll_id=&news_id=

The best of luck in your future imaging.

Carlos

May 23, 2004 07:14 AM Forum: Solar System Observing

neat Q4 on 8/5/2004 from NZ

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Phil,

A beautiful image of Comet Neat Q4 from down under. I believe that you captured the open clusters M46 and M47 in the image as well. Thank you for sharing this image with us.

Carlos

May 24, 2004 09:31 PM Forum: Solar System Observing

Can't see with large aperture?

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Ron,

I believe that your true question is "Why do not experienced planetary observers using larger instruments detect more detail over the planets." This actually depends upon many factors such as the quality of the lens or mirror (larger objectives are more difficult to figure to a diffraction-limited surface), structure enclosing the instrument (older observatories used material (e.g. steel) which held heat too readily and were poorly ventilated compared to modern (open) observatories), experience of the observer (a factor not mentioned enough), and most importantly the steadiness of our atmosphere (or seeing conditions).

The observation of Saturn made by the famous planetary astronomer Edward Emerson Barnard you refer to (on the right in the attached image) was made on July 2, 1894. Barnard was using the famous 36" Lick refractor at the time to make his observation. Since the Lick refractor was first pressed into service in 1888, ironically the other attached image made by James Keeler was practically the maiden observation using this fine instrument, Barnard had enjoyed many fine views of the Moon and planets which superseded any other made before that time. He wrote of this observation of Saturn "It is true that the picture appears abnormally devoid of details when compared with drawings made with some of the smaller telescopes. I am satisfied, however, to let it remain so." Barnard was, honestly, recording only the features that were held steadily throughout his observation as any observer should do. I understand this statement as I myself have observed details over the planets that were not consistently visible and therefore not recorded in the final drawing. One must remember that the planet Saturn presents very low contrast features over it's globe and not even orbiting instruments (HST) record much more detail over the ringed planet.

James E. Keeler, the first staff astronomer of the Lick Observatory and a pioneer in astrophysics, made his observation of Saturn on January 7, 1888. Keeler was using an impressive magnification of 1,000x on the giant refractor (what a view that must have been!). He stated upon placing Saturn in the field of view "beyond doubt the greatest telescopic spectacle ever beheld by man. The giant planet with its wonderful rings, its belts, its satellites, shone with a splendor and distinctness of detail never before equalled." Keeler discovered a faint gap in the outer portion of ring A during that observation now know as the Keeler division (not to be confused with the Encke division or gap which are closer to the center of ring A).

The point of the above observations is to show that if given the proper atmospheric (seeing) conditions then an experienced observer will detect features over a planetary surface or atmosphere that a smaller instrument will fail to detect. This is not a condemnation of smaller instruments used on the planets but only a fact that a larger aperture instrument (assuming a well-figured objective) will ( by reason of increased resolution) detect finer details upon a planetary surface or atmosphere if the atmospheric (seeing) conditions permit. The smaller instrument, in general, will be useful on many more observing sessions if the seeing conditions at a specific site are average (5/10) at best. That is why we, using our smaller instruments (e.g. 4-10 inches aperture) will "see" more detail upon the planets, in general, than larger instruments as the average air cell is approximately 10 inches (25 cm) in diameter.

May 29, 2004 01:48 AM Forum: Solar System Observing

Venus Transit - See Graphics

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Curt,

Thank you for taking the time out to produce the useful graphic on the upcoming Transit of Venus on June 8th. I hope to catch the tail end of it from Miami. The best of luck in your own observations of the transit.

Carlos

May 29, 2004 06:38 AM Forum: Solar System Observing

Jupiter Observing

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Howard,

It sounds as if you are already starting with a very good instrument to observe the planets with (assuming diffraction limited optics). Your magnification range sounds about right as well (30-40x aperture). I can speculate that your local seeing conditions may not be allowing you to note fine detail over Jupiter. Although you may have an excellent instrument to observe the planets it takes a great deal of training the eye to detect faint detail. You must also realize that images enhance certain details over a planet (e.g. belt or zone) which the eye may note as subtle. Please be patient and you will begin to see some of the detail that more experienced observers record. The best of luck in your observations of Jupiter.

Carlos

June 7, 2004 05:37 AM Forum: Solar System Observing

Venus June 7?

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Darian,

Checking my planetarium program set for Chicago the planet Venus will be located at 05h 9m 37.5s and +22*57'05" It will be 1*19'25" from the Sun at this time. I hope that this helps you.

Carlos

June 8, 2004 02:41 PM Forum: Solar System Observing

First Venus transit pic in H-Alpha

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Dominique,

Thank you for posting your incredible h-alpha image of the transit of Venus. The amount of detail is amazing! I was clouded out down here in South Florida. I will have to wait until 2012.

Carlos

June 8, 2004 02:52 PM Forum: Solar System Observing

My Venus Transit photos

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Anthony,

Thank you for posting your excellent images of the transit for us that were clouded out for the event (South Florida). You recorded the third and fourth contacts very well.

Carlos

June 8, 2004 02:55 PM Forum: Solar System Observing

Venus Start of 3rd Contact From Sanibel, Florida

Posted By Carlos E. Hernandez

Paul,

Thank you for your post of the transit of Venus. The black drop may have been recorded in your image (a black bar between the limb of Venus and the limb of the Sun).

Carlos