Posts Made By: James Lacey

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

Since no one will probably see it in the other thread I'll say it again. 

It will be hilariously ironic if Trump gets taken down by a private (top secret) server.

The Ukranian press has taken to calling Zelensky, wait for it, Monica Zelensky.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

This latest is nothing more than a continuation of the organized "deep state" witch hunt that has been happening since before Trump was elected. I mean come on folks.....the whistle blower rules regarding 1st hand information were quietly changed by the intelligence community to allow for "hearsay evidence" about a month ago.....and you believe this was not so this 2nd hand info whistle blower could get in the news? If you do then you are an idiot......

BREAKING NEWS...The whistle-blower has been NAMED!
It is Kevin Cronin of REO Speedwagon.
Sources say he..."heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another."

Linda Tripp was not an eyewitness either. I seriously question whether or not whistleblower rules were just recently changed to allow hearsay. Hearsay is allowed in legal cases all the time; especially civil law. If I'm at a bar, and I overhear two thugs talk about a brutal murder they committed and where they stashed the body was a crime not committed? If I recognize that they are likely talking about a recent missing person from an Amber alert, and I go to the police with the information, will they say, "If you didn't see it happen we don't care." It boggles the mind the lengths that Trump supporters will go to provide cover for this traitor.

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

When Trump asked, "Will you do me a favor?", it had nothing to do with Biden. 

Balderdash. The only way you can come away with the conclusion that Trump was not asking for political dirt on Biden is if you read the transcript in isolation. In context, it's abundantly clear what is happening. The President and his staff withheld the Ukranian military aid and predicated any calls with Ukraine would require them to "play ball." Ukraine faces an existential threat from Russia, they need our aid to survive, and Trump is asking for a favor. Zelensky does what all foreign leaders do when at the mercy of Trump's will, he pours out nauseating obsequious praise onto Trump. There is no way that anyone can read that transcript in context and come with any other conclusion than that Trump is "shaking down" Zelensky and Zelensky is, in turn, trying to play Trump.

Originally Posted by James Brown

I do not agree with James that DJT is categorically F'd. But is this a LOL moment?  Not to me anyway.

I stand by my prediction; he is royally farked. As the impeachment inquiry moves forward, more and more will come out. For example, the recent revelation that Trump told Russian officials that he wasn't concerned about Russia's interference in the 2016 election. I don't see how green-lighting Russia to meddle more and drawing a moral equivalence between Russia's actions and the actions of the USA is going to move independents to his column. Trump will never resign, impeachment in the Senate will likely fail, but politically this is incredibly bad not only for Trump but for down-ballot GOP candidates as well.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

Bet you think the NE has never been right before as well LOL

I swear you guys never change your playbook....it is disagrees with you then its wrong regardless of the source

Sure. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then, and even a broken clock is right twice a day. But, it is ludicrous to think that you will be taken seriously if you are citing a tabloid as a source of credible reporting.

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

The statement does not help Trump! I do think that the interference in 2016 was overblown. The Russian ads hardly threatened the existence and very essence of our democracy. It was very hyped. It is true that the US has interfered in elections to a greater extent than Russia did in 2016.

edit-Can Warren beat a damaged Trump?

I don't think the point is that Russian meddling was an existential threat. Rather, when you consider that in 2016 Trump won MI by a little more than 10,000 votes and that the Libertarian candidate got over 172,000 votes, it's hard to imagine that the multiple systemic efforts detailed in the Mueller report did not affect outcomes. That would be like saying the normal campaigning and pressing of the flesh that politicians do every election cycle makes no difference. Of course, electioneering and campaigning and advertising and caucusing make a difference in outcomes; it's why they do it. And it's why the Russians did what they did and it's why it probably did affect outcomes.

The larger point is though that it matters since the point of the meddling is to undermine the face of our credibility in the world so that they can pursue their interests more freely and without intervention from the West. Should we just let the Russians tell us what to think, how to act, and let them elect our leaders? Of course, it matters Mel. It matters a lot and no one should be electing our leaders other than us.

Originally Posted by Mel Maki

Russia is not electing our leaders.

Granted, but they did meddle in serious and systematic ways, and it's impossible to say exactly how much of an effect it had, but I guarantee you it affected outcomes some. So, are you ok with that? Are you ok with the President of the United States abusing the power of his office to coerce and extort foreign governments into digging up dirt on a political opponent? Come on man; if we start turning a blind eye to this stuff where does it end?

Where is the Republican party that cared about restraining presidential power when Obama was president? Why is the "law and order party" now quietly sitting by as Trump breaks the law, tramples institutions that uphold law and order, and obstructs investigations and intimidates and tampers with witnesses? Where is the political party that told us Hillary couldn't be trusted with national security because of her emails? This impeachment inquiry is not "radical" by any measure of what used to be core conservative principles. If a Democratic president had done even one small iota of what Trump has done, Republicans would be organizing in the streets with pitchforks and torches in hand.

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

James, 
The WSJ reported yesterday that a significant number of Republican senators haven't even read the whistleblower complaint. Now that's what I call due diligence....

I read that Senator Jeff Flake said that at least 35 Republican senators would vote to remove Trump if the vote was private. In other words, if they thought their vote would not affect their re-election chances. Granted, that is just Flake's opinion, but honestly, I don't doubt it at this point. Pompeo has been subpoenaed by three separate House committees, it's being reported now that the White House has hidden calls and transcripts with Putin and the Saudi Royals. And to think Trump ran on being the most transparent administration in history. Once this impeachment inquiry gets into full-swing, it's going to get ugly as hell. All the knives will come out, and people will be scrambling to save their behinds. Giuliani throwing the State Department under the bus is just the beginning. I have to say though, Giuliani is the gift that just keeps on giving. I can't wait till they put him under oath because he's such a moron he doesn't even know what he's not supposed to say. He's almost as bad as Trump when it comes to impulsivity and making things worse by not knowing when to shut up.

Originally Posted by Jim Moscheck

Seems no one reads most of it.  

I certainly don't.

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer

LOL....thats one reason you continually make a fool of yourself James......The left has you catfished in so tight you will never start thinking for yourself instead of repeating BS from insane talking heads on the MSM.

I'm more than willing to engage differing opinions in a respectful and measured way. In the case of Rich though, there is no point in reading or responding since 99.9% of what Rich posts is either name-calling, or innuendo, or conspiracy theories and are the ramblings of a troubled mind. Let's be honest. Rich posts his three thousand word long jeremiads just to hear himself discursively prattle on. No one reads it anymore.