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September 24, 2021 09:10 PM Forum: Politics

Dr. Marty Makary, Top Epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University says about Natural Immunity vs. Vaccinated Immunity...

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by James Lacey
Steroids are not a good analogy to vaccines. Again, the active ingredient in vaccines stays in your body for a few days, maybe a week. Then it is either consumed, destroyed, or otherwise decays. You take it once a year at most, not every day in large quantities. The science and history behind vaccines tell us this vaccine is safe, effective, and its benefits far outweigh its risks. There is more than enough science and data now to draw this conclusion.

Of course, I'm not threatened by our disagreement, and of course, I care about your welfare. Look, you as an individual don't make much difference regarding whether or not you get the vaccine. The vaccine-hesitant as a whole though is doing great harm to all of us. That and the disinformation and propaganda against the vaccine and the harm that it is causing is what concerns me. Otherwise, yes, do what you want to do. However, don't be surprised if I challenge misinformation, propaganda, or conspiracy theories.

And the broken record is still broke, I expected no less lol..... So you are saying they might as well just stop the stage 4 trials as you have come to the conclusion its all good? Gee, maybe you should let them know they are not needed as you have determined it is plenty safe enough so they can stop wasting time and money......

September 25, 2021 01:34 AM Forum: Politics

Dr. Marty Makary, Top Epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University says about Natural Immunity vs. Vaccinated Immunity...

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

At this point, given the number of vaccines that have been administered worldwide, you might as well stop stage 4. Here's stage 4 in a nutshell from the folks at pfizer:

Well you certainly arent short on ego doctor of immunology Rod lol


So, Greg and his cohorts can continue to grasp at a straw for a reason not to take a vaccine which is not the same as a medicine one takes on an ongoing basis.

Ohhh I have cohorts now.....lol

So, following Greg's "logic", one shouldn't take the vaccine even though it's been approved for use because it hasn't completed a "post-marketing trial".

I defy you to show where I have advocated no one should take the vaccine....I simply gave my reasoning for not taking it myself (YET).....since you seem to want to put words in my mouth I can only assume you somehow feel threatened by my choices and reasoning.

If that's the case then he and others like him that follow the same "logic" will never take the vaccine so if everybody believed the same thing Greg and his cohorts do, then nobody would take the vaccine and there wouldn't be a phase three trial, let alone a phase 4 trial...

I dont think I can put it any plainer Rod. I have stated more than once already I am not trying to make anyone think they made a bad choice. I will even state here and now that if they have not had covid and recovered they probably should take the jab....it is obvious that it would not have made it past the stage 3 trials if it were not safe at least in the short term for the majority of folks (already said that as well).

Once again, I dont plan to take it anytime soon and I have explained why......what it is about that you obviously feel threatened by? 

Are you done yet?.....I am as I see nothing to gain or lose by beating this dead horse further.....

Oops.....just noticed this was Rod and not James so I edited the names accordingly....

September 25, 2021 01:49 AM Forum: Politics

Dr. Marty Makary, Top Epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University says about Natural Immunity vs. Vaccinated Immunity...

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by James Lacey


Of course, that's not what I said.

Sure sounded like it.....but Rod seems to have stepped in a said they can just end the stage 4 trials for you in plain english.....lol Like you he seems to think the "science" is settled and stage 4 is a waste of time.

As I said, your concerns are valid, but in my humble opinion, overblown and misinformed.

Well thank you for the validation.....but your opinion does not sound very humble, in fact based on the above you and Rod are appearing somewhat irrational......

September 25, 2021 02:00 AM Forum: Politics

Dr. Marty Makary, Top Epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University says about Natural Immunity vs. Vaccinated Immunity...

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by James Lacey
You are responding to Rod, not me. You may want to reconsider who is getting flustered.

I caught that and just finished editing accordingly.....sorry for the confusion. Most of what I was saying does however apply to you and Rod both lol

September 25, 2021 02:11 AM Forum: Politics

Moderna CEO" Pandemic Will End Within One Year From Now

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
"The coronavirus pandemic will be over within a year, Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel said on Thursday, as more vaccines become available and vaccines are approved for children, he told the Swiss Neue Zürcher Zeitung (NZZ) newspaper."
"Bancel estimated that by the middle of next year there should be enough vaccine doses so that "everyone on earth can get vaccinated" and boosters should also be possible as required, allowing a return to the routine by this time next year."
"Those who do not get vaccinated will immunize themselves naturally because the Delta variant is so contagious," Bancel told NZZ. "In this way, we will end up in a situation similar to that of the flu. You can either get vaccinated and have a good winter, or you don't do it and risk getting sick and possibly even ending up in hospital. Let's not forget that tens of thousands die from the flu every year in Europe and the US."
"In response to a question about how safe the vaccine is, Bancel explained that half of the injected molecules break down with four hours of vaccination, with the rest breaking down after 48 hours. Independent and verified studies determined years ago that Moderna's mRNA does not enter the DNA nucleus or cause long-term damage."
https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/covid-pandemic-will-be-over-within-a-year-moderna-ceo-680119

I have survived 67 years without ever taking a flu shot.....and I have had the flu at least a couple of times which btw was a WHOLE lot worse than covid was though neither put me in the hospital. Survived covid as well.....obviously. That said when the time comes that I feel comfortable with the covid jab I will likely take it....

September 25, 2021 02:14 AM Forum: Politics

Dr. Marty Makary, Top Epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University says about Natural Immunity vs. Vaccinated Immunity...

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Originally Posted by James Lacey


No. I never said we should stop phase 4 trials. In any case, you are right about one thing. At this point, the discussion is exhausted. I do hope you reconsider and get your vaccine, but regardless, I hope for all of us continued health and happiness.

No you just said everything but....lol 

We do however agree.....this horse is dead, for now I will trust in natural immunity but do allow that I will probably at some point take the jab assuming it continues to prove out safe and thanks.

September 25, 2021 02:25 AM Forum: Politics

So moving on from the vaccine....

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Given the past discussions regarding Ivermectin when it comes to treating those who do contract covid I found this testimony in the SC senate pretty interesting.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EkjSK7Exgs

September 26, 2021 06:28 AM Forum: Politics

Dr. Marty Makary, Top Epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins University says about Natural Immunity vs. Vaccinated Immunity...

Posted By Greg Shaffer

Lacey's arrogance in point blank telling me "Its proven safe, go get the shot" is what led to the whole long, drawn out discussion on it......passing stage 3 trials only means "it looks like it is safe so far and the odds are the benefits outweigh the negatives".....Hell I agree with that. However that doesnt mean I agree with anyone making blanket statements that it is safe in the long term for everyone. It is a personal choice for all.....since I have the natural immunity resulting from having had covid I choose to wait and see.....as is my right.

September 26, 2021 06:34 AM Forum: Politics

Idaho

Posted By Greg Shaffer

I dont doubt for a second there are hot spots for covid infections......how could there not be? That said, there are approx 6500 hospitals in the country and per the worldometer today approx 22,000 serious/critical cases. That works out to about 3.5 persons per hospital.....yet the media would have us believe there is a nationwide crisis. Sorry....the figures say there is some BS at work here.....

September 27, 2021 08:36 PM Forum: Politics

Biden Accelerates Deportation Flights From Texas To Haiti

Posted By Greg Shaffer

As always the left's mantra is whatever currently serves their agenda regardless of what they were saying last week, last year or last decade......

When called on it they fall back on "out of context, that was a different time, the facts have changed" or whatever best suits the moment including just denying they ever said it even in the face of video proof. smile