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Posts Made By: Patrick Keafer

January 8, 2021 11:46 AM Forum: Politics

WSJ Calls for trump's head

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
Trump won't resign and Pence won't invoke the 25th amendment. The Democrats will impeach Trump again. The senate Republicans will block it. The Democrats in congress start 2021 with another loss and Trump lives to fight another day.
Impeaching him would be dumb.  It would make him a martyr.  The best course would be to keep a close eye on him and let him finish his term.  Then he can go away.  His social media accounts are suspended so his ability to stir up trouble with his followers is a little limited.

January 15, 2021 01:27 AM Forum: Politics

Now Liz Cheney is on board for impeachment.

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

I don't see Liz Cheney as some sort of a hero. She did her job as she should in this particular case. And she is definitely not her father, either.
Her father agreed with her.  He signed the document from former admin officials condemning Trump's behavior.

January 15, 2021 10:22 AM Forum: Politics

Now Liz Cheney is on board for impeachment.

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by James Brown

I'm curious if you could see yourself voting for Trump in a primary again.  I know it is tough to view in a vacuum,  but let's say he was in a primary between Rubio, Romney, Haley, Cheney, Pence, and Cruz.  Any chance you would vote for Trump in that field?

Any once or future conservative ought to feel free to answer.  I would vote for any of those candidates over Trump.  It would not be close in my case.

Maybe Hailey but I'd have to see more from her.  All the others I guess I'd vote against Trump but i wouldn't want any.

January 16, 2021 10:51 PM Forum: Politics

Conservative Website "American Thinker" Apologizes for Lies About Election Fraud

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by James Lacey


The damage has been done. It's much harder to convince people they have been lied to than to convince them of the lie, to begin with. Oddly, with it's $1.3Bn lawsuit, Dominion, a private company, is doing more to preserve Democracy in the US than the GOP congressmen and Trump's acolytes who participated in the Big Lie about the election being a fraud or stolen.

It's amazing what real truth a massive lawsuit brings out.  Dominion out did itself here.  

January 17, 2021 11:46 PM Forum: Politics

Lets add a little truth to the fiction here...... lol

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

Lol! What a crock, just like your uncredited copy and paste link from a convicted fraudster!

Give him a break!  He probably copied it from the Qanon forum and didn't immediately have the source available!  People aren't perfect.

January 20, 2021 07:35 AM Forum: Politics

Moving Day

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
The unique exit of Donald John Trump documented in a little over a minute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcXiGPdnFz0
Hopefully he doesn't try to steal things from the oval office on the way out like the Clinton's did.

January 20, 2021 09:15 PM Forum: Politics

Moving Day

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman

I'd like to know what Trump did with Lincoln's bust:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/15/politics/white-house-move-lincoln-bust-pheasant/index.html
PS What did the Clinton's "steal"?
They took furniture that belonged in the White House and shipped it to their personal residence.  They later had it return it.

January 20, 2021 11:08 PM Forum: Politics

Today

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
Well.....assuming all the underground rumors of a last minute rabbit getting pulled out of the hat turn out to be just rumors it looks like today is the day Biden becomes the President. (There is of course a few hours of hope left lol)

I dont mind saying Biden will not be MY President but I would point out he will be THE President and hoping he is a dismal failure at it is counter productive.

No doubt many remember seeing the analogy bandied about for close to a decade that hoping a President is a dismal failure is akin to hoping the pilot dies in an airplane you are traveling in.

So I have no intention of participating in anything like the ongoing obstruction Trump suffered from the left for 4 years.

That is not to say I wont rant about it when he does something truly stupid but I will do as I did with Obama and call out the lies when I see them same as I did with Trump.

I wont however spend my time hoping he will fail......I will just spend it hoping he doesnt fuck it up too bad wink

He's going to be your President whether you like it or not.  And you better hope he has success or we'll be in lockdown for years. Biden has to dig us out of the covid mess former President Trump left in his wake.

January 21, 2021 01:54 AM Forum: Politics

Today

Posted By Patrick Keafer

Originally Posted by James Brown

Hi Patrick:

I seriously don't understand this line of thinking.  The virus - mother nature in the raw - has us locked down.  The federal response has been haphazard and incompetent at times, like all federal responses to calamities.  It is highly unlikely in my opinion that any other president, even the best of them all (whomever one might believe that to be) would have led a response to a novel and deadly virus that had measurably better outcomes.  The Biden administration certainly would not have.  Those who refuse to wear masks and pandemic deniers would exist no matter who was president.  Trump may have emboldened the rule breakers, but it is silly to think that everyone would have fallen in line under President Biden.  Also, the virus was going to get it's share of pain and death even if everyone had fallen into line and scrupulously followed best practices.

It is a fantasy to think that a greater level of competence at the federal level would have eliminated this year of pain and death.  At the very best, there might have been a slight but measurable decrease in infections and death, but I personally doubt it, and at what cost?   

Meanwhile, the vaccines were developed in record time.  The distribution proceeds pretty well in some states and less so in others, but that is the nature of a vast mobilization in a large and diverse country.

Meanwhile, the infection map, which I review every day has never looked better.  Green states are those showing a decline in infections over the past two weeks.  Your home state is an outlier, Any idea why the infections have skyrocketed in VA?  

Anyway, the overall map has never looked this good.  https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/new-cases-50-states Look for a return to normalcy this summer or fall, no matter whether Biden, you, me, or nobody is president.

Jim

Former President Trump made it worse by discouraging the use of masks, attacking his own scientists, making a mockery of early lockdowns, and bumbling the rollout of the vaccines.  No one would have held him accountable, just like we didn't hold W accountable for 9/11, if there was a coherent national response to the pandemic. He didn't make the virus or cause it to come here but he made the outcome worse.  And for that he is responsible.

August 27, 2021 04:39 AM Forum: Politics

What has Joe Biden given to the Taliban?

Posted By Patrick Keafer

This is on Biden.  

He should not have adopted Trumps plan for withdrawal, especially after Trump announced to the Taliban and the terrorists the time line in which to plan attacks.