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Posts Made By: James Lacey

January 20, 2019 11:09 AM Forum: Politics

Texas removes Confederate plaque from State Capitol

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer
Slavery didnt become an issue until after the civil war started.....when Lincoln saw support for the war was waning he used slavery to gin up support

The idea that slavery was not an issue until after the Civil War started, I'm afraid, is just unequivocally false, and the historical evidence does not support this hypothesis. Opposition to slavery and support for abolition had been growing not only in the US but worldwide long before the Civil War started. For example, by 1804 all Northern states had abolished slavery, and the Civil war did not even begin until 1861.

January 21, 2019 04:00 AM Forum: Politics

Texas removes Confederate plaque from State Capitol

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by Greg Shaffer


Go read what Lincoln wrote himself.....Until you do all the rewriting history you are engaging means little....

Go read about the Connecticut and Missouri Compromise and then tell me that slavery was not an issue until the Civil War. Even from the founding of the US, slavery was an issue and at odds with our proclaimed ideals of freedom and liberty for all.

January 21, 2019 04:09 AM Forum: Politics

Texas removes Confederate plaque from State Capitol

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by Richard Davis


For the uninformed out there:

MARYLAND State Archives Website:  

http://slavery.msa.maryland.gov/html/research/census1860.html

I guess Maryland didn't the get the memo that was sent out by you at the time, where you make the absurd claim that in 1804 Slavery was abolished in that State.

Unless of course in your twisted alternative Universe whereby Maryland was somehow a "Southern Secession State" in 1860.

Care to rethink your assertion?  shocked

Southern and Northern are loose terms that mean different things based on context. After the Civil War, Southern States means any State from the Deep South such as Texas, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, etc. During the Civil War though, Maryland was considered a Southern State, even though it stuck with the Union and was a slaveholding State. The reasons Maryland stuck with the Union and varied, but believe me, they were a Southern State and had a sympathetic leaning for the Confederacy. Maryland is the State that Booth fled to after killing Lincoln mainly because he thought he would find like-minded individuals there that would protect him. So, I stand by my original claim that slavery was illegal in the North before the Civil War. Why for example do you think slaves fled North?

January 21, 2019 04:14 AM Forum: Politics

Texas removes Confederate plaque from State Capitol

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

 Of course you became indignant.  To say otherwise is fantasy.  

The only person that routinely gets angry on this forum is you. It's quite hilarious that the guy who only sees every subject through ideological factionalism for the Republican party would accuse anyone else of engaging in fantasy.

January 21, 2019 04:28 AM Forum: Politics

Texas removes Confederate plaque from State Capitol

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by yRichard Davis

Apparently New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Connecticut, Rhode Island, didn't get the message back in 1804 because their Census  of 1810 indicated they had slaves.

Straw-man. I never said Northern states never had any slaves. Abolition of slavery in the Northern States was mostly phased out over time. The year 1804 is more than 50 years before the Civil War. What does the census of 1850 say for those same states for example? It says there were zero slaves in those states. By the time of the Civil War, all Northern States were free states. By the Northern States, I mean Northern in the context of the era of the Civil War. Slaves in the South fled to the North for this exact reason.

January 21, 2019 04:38 AM Forum: Politics

Texas removes Confederate plaque from State Capitol

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by Richard Davis

As far as I'm concerned, I don't want to see any of these historical monuments removed because the holier than thou among all of us, has decided that they know better as to what is good for our society and our children.  

You will be happy to know then that those who advocate for their removal do not base their claims solely on their proclivities. No one is erasing history by removing these historically inaccurate monuments like the one on the Texas Capitol grounds. Today the sun will rise, and countless thousands of children and college students will still learn about the Civil War. They will not, however, be confused by a Confederate monument that was part of the introduction of legally mandated segregation and disenfranchisement into the South. And that is a good thing.

January 21, 2019 07:02 AM Forum: Politics

Trump Teens Harass Native American/Vietnam Vet

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by Tony Aguire
Not sure if you're trying to post some homophobic slur against me? 

That is precisely the slur he's using Tony. Richard has directed his homophobia at others many times in the past. It's hilarious that the guy who fancies himself the smartest man in the room has to sink to misogynist and homophobic insults, but it's not surprising either given all his other past behavior that is toxic such as literally challenging people to fights and threatening to travel to their towns and beat them up. 

January 21, 2019 07:05 AM Forum: Politics

Trump Teens Harass Native American/Vietnam Vet

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by Richard Davis


If you want to be taken seriously, you might try something other than race baiting and Hitler comparisons.  


It's truly jarring to get a lecture on credibility from the guy who routinely engages in personal attacks and insults.

January 21, 2019 07:10 AM Forum: Politics

Trump Teens Harass Native American/Vietnam Vet

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by David Cotterell

Rich, you have a poor memory.

"  Now go use that fat mouth of yours for the ONLY thing it is really good for, and go blow somebody. 

  It is my understanding from speaking with others here that you have a lot of practice doing that."

"It is none of my business what you do behind closed doors with your gay partner."

Direct quotes from posts of yours last fall...

Dave

I know it's a small consolation Dave, but trust me, most of us see this precisely for what it is. It indeed stretches the limits of credulity that Richard would characterize this as anything other than a homophobic slur.

January 22, 2019 08:10 AM Forum: Politics

Trump Teens Harass Native American/Vietnam Vet

Posted By James Lacey
Originally Posted by Mel Maki

I'm giving the "adult" protesters most of the blame for this one. 

There is a video that has surfaced of the "Trump Teens" harassing young girls before the black Hebrews and Nathan Phillips event. Have you seen it?

https://twitter.com/roflinds/status/1087482823978684422?s=20

I'm not a foe or detractor of any of the parties involved other than the black Hebrews; they are a hate group. However, I don't think the "Trump Teens" are entirely innocent either despite Nick Sandmann's professionally PR crafted counter-narrative.

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