Originally Posted by Rod Kaufman
You know why I'm so pissed about your post about the rifle being "weak"? Because I've seen and responded to this same BS argument before in another mass shooting! Same crap about it not killing deer when it clearly can and does and if some sort of rule exists somewhere in some state, it's obviously and proven wrong by those who use it to kill deer elsewhere. I also recall arguing with a con in the forum who claimed the round couldn't penetrate walls in a building.
"The following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting":
Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School shooting in Florida leaves 17 people dead.
Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people.
Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.
"In 1994, President Bill Clinton signed an assault-weapons ban, which banned the AR-15 and other similar semiautomatic rifles."
"After its ban, mass shootings were down in the decade that followed, in comparison to the decade before (1984-94) and the one after (2004-14), NPR reported in 2018."
https://www.npr.org/2022/05/26/1101274322/uvalde-ar-15-style-rifle-history-shooter-mass-shooting
Now, do you finally get it, MEL?!
You can't type anything that would help me "get" something on this subject.
Some states say the .223 is too small because they are concerned about a clean kill. Hell, a .223 could most likely kill any animal, eventually. But if it takes off after being shot the odds are too good a hunter will not get it.
Nobody is denying a .223 kills people. Why keep trying to argue that? You typed a lot of words for nothing. And except for a few others, it still is the weakest rifle round.
James remarked heavily armed cops were too scared to engage. I'm suggesting they could be waiting for shields that could block the AR. I'll add the thousands of hunting rifles and shotguns probably in the area would be able to rip right through those shields.
An AR is not recommended for home defense because a RIFLE has too much range and penetration. It could end up in your neighbor's house.