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Posts Made By: Robert Pasken

June 8, 2009 11:13 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

ENSO influence on temperature variations

Posted By Robert Pasken

An interesting document to read is

Impact of global warming on enso variability using the coupled giss GCM/ZC model
EICHLER Timothy; RIND, David; ZEBIAK, Stephen

Abstract
This study uses a hybrid coupled model (referred to as the general-circulation model (GCM)/Zebiak/Cane (ZC) model), which consists of the Goddard Institute for Space Studies' (GISS) Atmospheric general-circulation model (AGCM) coupled to the oceanic component of the ZC intermediate model to assess the impact of global warming on El Niño behavior, with and without the influence of heat introduced from the subtropical Pacific (via subtropical cell (STC) pathway). The baseline GCM/ZC model produces El Niño variability with a two year periodicity and an amplitude of approximately half the magnitude of observed El Niño. The GCM/ZC model also produces an appropriate atmospheric global response to El Niño/southern oscillation (ENSO) as shown by composites of 500 hPa heights, sea-level pressure (SLP), 200 hPa wind, and precipitation during El Niño and La Niña periods. To evaluate the importance of global warming on ENSO variability, 2x CO2 and 4x CO2 transient simulations were done increasing the atmospheric CO2 one percent per year, then extending the runs for an additional 70 years to obtain equilibrium climates for each run. An additional set of global-warming simulations was run after including a STC parameterization generated by computing 5-year running means of the sea-surface temperature (SST) difference between a transient run and the 1 x CO2 GCM/ZC run at the anticipated subduction zones (160-130°W, 20-40°N and 20-44°S, 160-130°W) and adding it to the base of the equatorial mixed-layer of the ZC model with a time lag of 15 years. This effectively alters the vertical temperature gradient of the ZC model, which affects SST via upwelling. Two features of the GCM/ZC response to global warming are emphasized. Firstly, the inclusion of the STC results in a major redistribution of heat across the equatorial Pacific, leading to an El Niño-like response in the final equilibrium solution with less variability about the mean. The global warming aspect due to the El Niño-like response results in a positive feedback on global warming, which causes a higher global surface-air temperature (SAT) than identical transient simulations without inclusion of the STC. Secondly, including the STC effect produces a far greater magnitude of global ENSO-like impact because of the reduction of, or even the reversal of, the equatorial Pacific longitudinal SST gradient. The implications of such an extreme climate scenario are discussed.

International journal of climatology ISSN 0899-8418
2006, vol. 26, no10, pp. 1283-1314


El Niño and climate change
Trenberth, K. E. and Timothy J. Hoar
National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado
Geophys. Res. Lett., 24(23), 3057–3060.

A comprehensive statistical analysis of how an index of the Southern Oscillation changed from 1882 to 1995 was given by Trenberth and Hoar [1996], with a focus on the unusual nature of the 1990–1995 El Niño‐Southern Oscillation (ENSO) warm event in the context of an observed trend for more El Niño and fewer La Niña events after the late 1970s. The conclusions of that study have been challenged by two studies which deal with only the part of our results pertaining to the length of runs of anomalies of one sign in the Southern Oscillation Index. They therefore neglect the essence of Trenberth and Hoar, which focussed on the magnitude of anomalies for certain periods and showed that anomalies during both the post‐1976 and 1990‐mid‐1995 periods were highly unlikely given the previous record. With updated data through mid 1997, we have performed additional tests using a regression model with autoregressive‐moving average (ARMA) errors that simultaneously estimates the appropriate ARMA model to fit the data and assesses the statistical significance of how unusual the two periods of interest are. The mean SOI for the post‐1976 period is statistically different from the overall mean at <0.05% and so is the 1990‐mid‐1995 period. The recent evolution of ENSO, with a major new El Niño event underway in 1997, reinforces the evidence that the tendency for more El Niño and fewer La Niña events since the late 1970s is highly unusual and very unlikely to be accounted for solely by natural variability.

Are interesting papers to read concerning the effects of ENSO on global warming. Based on a quick google scholar search these papers reflect current uncertainty whether ENSO affects global warming or global warming affects the ENSO. I just love science

August 21, 2009 10:58 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

CO2 residence time in atmosphere

Posted By Robert Pasken

I see you're still reposting bovine excrement. Why not try reading the literature. Since you have a engineering background you shouldn't have difficulties understanding the content

November 16, 2009 11:45 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

It doesn't feel hotter? It's not in CONUS

Posted By Robert Pasken

Hugh iit strange WUWT says its the coldest, yet NOAA, Hadley Center and NASA say it's the warmest since 1998. Hm I wonder who I believe? A washedup TV newsreader or the people who collect and QC the data. Of course we know who you and Doug believe

January 1, 2010 04:16 PM Forum: Global Warming - REAL or NOT

Finally, someone with some honesty

Posted By Robert Pasken

If your statement were correct then why is the measured atmospheric CO2 content increasing? The measured CO2 content shows an annual cycle super-imposed on the an exponential increase. Please don't try the "it's located next to a volcano" line, because the four other sites which show the same pattern aren't located near volcanoes. Please try reading the paper, as well, it talks about the lifetime not the total concentration.

You can have an opinion about the methods for reducing CO2 but you are not allowed to lie about the science