MIT Prof Claims GW Science Corrupt

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/09/corrupted_science_revealed.html

Bob - I am sure you cannot resist this one.

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Lindzen is one of the most prominent and respected scientists that disagrees with anthropogenic global warming. His opinions are well known and I respect him. At least he is not of the same cut as Singer, Ball, etc.

Kirk Pfau said:

As to the modeling groups I certainly appreciate the work they have put forth in developing their tools, but until they can reliably replicate historical climate from a known historical initialization state, the model can handle and reproduce the climate with at least one or more fixed data sources and the developers/researchers provide full disclosure of the model, data sources, and data handling. Then the model and its outputs are not much better than statistical guesswork.

What makes you think that models have not been able to "reliably replicate historical climate from a known historical initialization state, the model can handle and reproduce the climate with at least one or more fixed data sources and the developers/researchers provide full disclosure of the model, data sources, and data handling." The source for any of the climate models in use (excuse me except from the groups funded by the oil/energy industry) are freely available along with extensive documentation as to the underlying mathematics, the programming techniques used, and the assumptions made, along with a list of papers referenced in the documentation. ALL the models are tested in two ways; the first is to start with observations from a reference date. A common date is January 1, 1950. The model is then run forward to another fixed date, typically January 1 2000 and the results are compared to observations on that date. The second method for testing the model is to start with current observations and run the model backwards to a known date again typically January 1 1950 and again compare the results against observations. I suggest you look at

http://www.ccsm.ucar.edu/models/
or
https://computation.llnl.gov/casc/climate/
or
http://www.llnl.gov/liv_comp/meiko/apps/wehner/camille.html
or
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/modelE/

In all cases there is note that says something to effect that the models are "open and free for non-commercial purposes." I suggest you download one or more, run the model at resolution appropriate to your home computer and try them out. Our sophomore climatology students run a reduced resolution version to learn how climate models work

Now I will be rude, before you make statements as insulting as you did why not at least time a few minutes to review past posts, look at the web sites of the people doing the actual work, learn some about the science, rather listening some blowhard who knows absolutely nothing and regurgitating it

I pointed Lindzen to this forum, and asked him to respond to the accusations made. He sent a personalized response, and referred to me to this attachment below. Interestingly in the link that opened this thread he explains how some of this disinformation is disseminated.



Statement concerning support.
My research has never been supported by any industrial source. I have always had research
support from one or more of the following: the National Science Foundation, the National
Aeronautics and Space Administration, and the Department of Energy.
I have accepted two lecture fees from oil and coal firms about 17 years ago. In each case, I
shared the platform with speakers from the environmental movement. The same was true of a
talk I gave at a meeting sponsored by OPEC around the same time. It was claimed that the
publication of that talk was sponsored by OPEC. That is untrue. The lecture had been prepared
earlier as part of a series of lectures delivered at Tel Aviv University where I was a Sackler
Visiting Professor. It was subsequently published by the Cato Institute in their magazine
Regulation.
During the early 90's, I also served for a couple of days as an expert witness for Western Fuels in
a court case in Minnesota. Western Fuels is a small coal cooperative serving publicly owned
utilities in the upper midwest. It is relatively unique among fuel companies in that it has no
customers to pass its expenses on to. It was created under President Carter as part of his policy
of reducing dependence on oil. Again during this period, I responded to a request to testify
before a Senate Committee. After testifying, I discovered that it is the practice of Congress not
to cover any expenses (travel, hotel, preparing 100 copies of testimony, etc.) associated with
testifying. Moreover, one is not permitted to use government grant funds for this purpose. Since
I was broke at the time, I accepted $300 from Western Fuels to cover some of the expenses. I
should add that this policy on the part of Congress has the effect of largely restricting testimony
to government employees and advocates. I covered my own expenses for subsequent
Congressional testimony.
The above represents the totality of my paid association with oil and coal firms.
Richard S. Lindzen
April 5, 2007