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Secondary considerations

Started by PYeomans, 06/01/2009 02:34PM
Posted 06/01/2009 02:34PM Opening Post
Hi, I am trying to work out the details of an 8" f7 Dobsonian before building and have a few questions regarding the size range of secondary mirrors. Using NEWT, I get a range of mirror sizes from 1.2" upward that appear acceptable. What should the diameter of the 100% illuminated field be if I'm using Naglers and Pentax lenses of 14mm or less? At 1.2" it's only 0.0041,while @1.5" it is 0.4363 which seems to be a huge jump for a small increase in size of obstruction.
Regards, Pete
Posted 06/01/2009 03:10PM #1
Pete, I had an 8"F7 for a number of years. IIRC the focuser height has a significant effect on the illuminated field. At one time I used a 1.25" diagonal with a very short Lumicon non-rotating helical focuser and got good results with oculars <14mm. When I switched to a crayford focuser, I went back to a 1.5" diagonal. To be honest, I could not detect any differences under 'normal' conditions.

Darian R.
Posted 06/01/2009 09:07PM #2
Pete Yeomans said:

Hi, I am trying to work out the details of an 8" f7 Dobsonian before building and have a few questions regarding the size range of secondary mirrors. Using NEWT, I get a range of mirror sizes from 1.2" upward that appear acceptable. What should the diameter of the 100% illuminated field be if I'm using Naglers and Pentax lenses of 14mm or less? At 1.2" it's only 0.0041,while @1.5" it is 0.4363 which seems to be a huge jump for a small increase in size of obstruction.
Regards, Pete

It appears to me that you need to be using a secondary at least 1.5 inches in diameter.

With the 1.2 inch diagonal, the fully illuminated field is apparently .0041 degrees, this is only 15 arc-seonds, half the size of Jupiter. This means that you would only achieve full brightness and resolution in the very, very center, Jupiter would not even be fully illuminated.

The 0.4363 degree fully illuminated field is about 26 arc-minutes, almost the size of the moon, acceptable for a planetary scope. A 13mm Nagler in your scope will provide 109x and a TFoV of approximately 0.75 degrees, the edges will not be fully illuminated but that is OK.

It is good realize that an undersized secondary means that you are not seeing the full mirror so that not only is brightness compromised but so is the resolving power.

Jon