Is it my imagination or is it generally true that APM refractors do not offer as good a resale value as say Takahashi or AP?
Resale value of APM Refractors.
Started by ALCHEMIST1, 04/06/2009 06:58PM
Posted 04/06/2009 06:58PM
Opening Post
Posted 04/06/2009 07:37PM
#2
Resale value on AP refractors is extremely high because the used market is the only market for people looking to purchase an AP refractor in a reasonably short period of time--there is a lengthy waiting list for new scopes. I haven't seen any evidence suggesting that APM and Tak have significantly different resale values. Some of the older Tak doublets sell for a relative song. Newer models of APM scopes seem to sell for 60% to 80% of retail. Newer models of Tak triplets seem to be in the 70% to 80% range.
- Jared Willson
- Jared Willson
Posted 04/07/2009 06:26AM
#3
I think it is more difficult to track APM prices
accurately, since there are many different versions
of the OTA, different focusers, etc. There is not
really any sort of standard configuration.
Also the lenses have different Strehl
ratios, with the better ones (interferograms
supplied) commanding a bit more money. Prices
also fluctuate with the Euro, with costs on
a long supply chain, and perceived scarcity/demand
at the moment.
One interesting example is this 175 F8 which originally
sold new for $9500
http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=290707
and recently went on Astromart apparently for $10700
http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=610002
This one is easy to track, since it had a highly non-
standard tube. I suppose the latest sale includes the
field flattener lens, but even if you take that off,
it seems to have gone at or above the 2004 new price.
On the other hand, the closest new configuration
goes for $15700. So it depends on how you want to
do the comparison. Its either 100% of new (tracking
one scope), or 60% (vs. current model). Probably
what you can say, is that both buyer and seller should
have been happy about the price on the one that sold
recently on Astromart.
As others have said, the limited availability of new AP
scopes certainly increases their re-sale prices.
Whereas you can order a new APM scope and have it in
a couple months.
accurately, since there are many different versions
of the OTA, different focusers, etc. There is not
really any sort of standard configuration.
Also the lenses have different Strehl
ratios, with the better ones (interferograms
supplied) commanding a bit more money. Prices
also fluctuate with the Euro, with costs on
a long supply chain, and perceived scarcity/demand
at the moment.
One interesting example is this 175 F8 which originally
sold new for $9500
http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=290707
and recently went on Astromart apparently for $10700
http://www.astromart.com/classifieds/details.asp?classified_id=610002
This one is easy to track, since it had a highly non-
standard tube. I suppose the latest sale includes the
field flattener lens, but even if you take that off,
it seems to have gone at or above the 2004 new price.
On the other hand, the closest new configuration
goes for $15700. So it depends on how you want to
do the comparison. Its either 100% of new (tracking
one scope), or 60% (vs. current model). Probably
what you can say, is that both buyer and seller should
have been happy about the price on the one that sold
recently on Astromart.
As others have said, the limited availability of new AP
scopes certainly increases their re-sale prices.
Whereas you can order a new APM scope and have it in
a couple months.
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