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4" APO too big or too small?

Started by rumpledoll, 03/02/2009 02:48PM
Posted 03/02/2009 02:48PM Opening Post
My smallest refractor is 4" used on a Giro mount (AP Traveler 105mm f/5.8). I occasionally wish that the setup was even smaller and lighter, especially when traveling. The length and weight of the tripod and mount needed is a bit of a drag. Oftentimes I will use my f/6 5.1" APO (AP 130EDF) on the Giro mount which is almost as easy as the 4" but does require the use of the counterweight and the size of the 5" is a bit more than the 4".

On the other hand, going below a 4" APO, especially from my light polluted locale would stink. One must use more magnification than one wants to dim the field to fight the light pollution and the 4" runs out of light fast. An 80mm APO would be almost useless I fear. On planets the 4" is OK, but when bumping the magnification the exit pupil shrinks to such an extent that floaters become an issue. A smaller APO would be that much worse.

On the third hand (Moties!) my 5.1" APO is just too big to be the smallest grab & go. What I want is the portability of an 80mm with the views of the 130mm. Argh.

Perhaps that is just what the 4" APO is for - a compromise. Thoughts?

Philip
Posted 03/02/2009 03:48PM #1
Too bad on the rare occasions a Stowaway comes up they are so highly priced. I think ~90mm is the smallest I would want to go for any serious visual scope. And, as you know, the Stowaway is about as compact as you can get.
Posted 03/02/2009 05:20PM #2
Phillip:

A few thoughts...

- It appears to me that the issue with the Traveler is not the scope but the mount. There are grab and go mounts that are capable of handling a 4 inch F/6 but are still easy to use. My 80mm and 102mm ED scopes are not in the Traveler class but I find a 4 inch is the right size for a grab and go, big enough to be satisfying but not so big as to be cumbersome.

- The darkness of the background sky is a function of exit pupil so if one is chasing a dark background in from a light polluted site, larger aperture means higher mags... no way around that... A big scope shows more even with sickly gray background but it isn't always so pretty...

- Anyway my suggestion: Consider a different mount, if your current mount is capable of handling the 130mm then you should be able to find something more appropriate for your Traveler.

Jon
Posted 03/02/2009 07:04PM #3
Maybe your best bet is one of these new catasomething or other thingys?

http://www.buytelescopes.com/product.aspx?p_id=9538&store_id=2&did=1

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Timm