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Swarovski 8x50 slc brief impressions

Started by nils_schoultz, 02/03/2004 10:05PM
Posted 02/03/2004 10:05PM Opening Post
I finally decided last week on the Swarovski 8x50 slc over the Zeiss 8x56 victory, and they arrived today from Adorama. Unfortunately, I knew within a few minutes that I had to return them. There was a fog / haze on the inside of one of the elements, a couple of cleaning wipe marks on the inside of another element, general light scuffing all over the body, and no documentation of any kind. Overall the impression was of a defective demo unit. I emailed Swarovski, who were very reasonable but pointed out that Adorama were not an authorized dealer and the binos were thus not under warranty. I then called Adorama to complain, to their credit they scheduled a UPS pickup of the binos at their cost for return.
I had only a few minutes to try these out, so take my impressions for what they are worth (not much). Still, I was able to look at trees and telephone poles at home that I know very well through other binoculars and telescopes, so my quick look was better than a look in the shop. The slcs gave the impression of high quality, as they should, but did not fit my hands well. If I put my thumbs in the indentations on the underside, the focus dial was out of reach. The screw up/down eyecup mechanism was excellent, the best of its kind I have ever used. The apparent field of 56 degrees matched the specs, and was just wide enough to satisfy me - noticably wider than my Fujinon 7x50 FMT-SX, which I had on hand to compare. They were pleasantly lighter and smaller than the Fujinon, as I had hoped (this was the reason for buying the slcs).
The view was beautiful. Just as bright as the Fujinons despite the slightly smaller exit pupil. The amount of softening at the edge of field was almost exactly the same in the two binoculars. The Swarovskis were better in that they had none of the chromatic abberation I notice sometimes in the Fujinon in high contrast situations like (today) dark tree trunks against blue sky or melting snow on grass. It was obvious, however, that the slcs had a golden/yellow cast to the view. It was not unpleasant, and may have even increased the contrast of the view slightly. I may not have noticed had I not had the absolutely pure image of the Fujinon to compare it to.
In any event, I would have been very satisfied with a non-defective pair of Swarovskis, but now the search continues for handheld astro binos to replace the Fujinons. I am thinking that the Zeiss 8x56 victory will get a try.
Posted 02/04/2004 03:52AM #1
Hi Nils,
Some of the older Swarovski SLC Habichts (older than current SLC) had a known problem with the internal optics hazing after a period of time. One theory that I was told about this suspected the silvering process on the prisms to somehow cause outgasing (or something) that resulted in hazed optics. Another theory just had it that it was the prisms themselves hazing up and thus making the view appear hazy without actually hazing the objectives.

I found out about this the hard way after buying a used set of Swarovski 8x56 SLC Habichts here on Astromart. This was in the days before there were seller ratings in use here. To make matters worse, I initially thought that they binos were just hazy because of the pervasive NC humidity. I never could understand why the Swaros seemed to "dew up" almost immediately upon taking them outside. Well, it wasn't dew. It was internal. It really hadn't occured to me, since I just "knew" that there couldn't possibly be anything wrong with a nitrogen sealed set of the world famous Swarovskis. At the time, it was the most expensive set of binoculars I'd ever bought, and I just couldn't believe that there could be anything wrong with them. I mean, we are talking Swarovski.

Anyway, 2 binocular repair shops that I contacted knew of the problem immediately and said that it was a problem with the specific limited production model Swaroski SLCs, not across the whole Swarovski line. A good repair shop can replace those prisms, re-align and re-collimate them and clean up all the internal surfaces. Prices I was quoted ranged from $100-$300 depending on which shop one talked to.

Once the prisms are replaced and everything is well cleaned up, recollimated, etc. those can be some amazing glasses. However, like you, I just never really warmed to the ergonomics of the older style. (Different and larger than yours.)

One thing I've *got* to know though. You mentioned overall light scuffing and no documentation. Did yours have a serial number professionally done anywhere on them, or was there a rougher spot somewhere near the top hinge?

Mike Swaim
Posted 02/04/2004 02:15PM #2
I am a bit surprised to learn Adorama is not an authorized Swarovski dealer. Adorama usually have very competitive price on binoculars....Sometimes I see prices that are unusually low but these have notes stating they are grey market products without lifetime warranty. I see no mention of this fact with any Swarovski products on the Adorma weg site. It's a good idea to verify this before making a purchase. If I am spending $1,200 or more for a pair of binos I want to make sure it comes with life time warranty.

I paid $189 for a pair of Pentax 8X28 DCF MPs from Adorama recentrly. It's the lowest price I can find anywhere and they ARE coverd by the Pentax USA liftime warranty. I guess Adorama is authorized reseller of Pentax binos at least.

Erik D