Image of the day

Captured by
Lawrence Parchman

Eastern Veil Nebula

My Account

New to Astromart?

Register an account...

Need Help?

account lost, support ???

Started by eucrite, 03/01/2010 05:22PM
Posted 03/01/2010 05:22PM Opening Post
Hello Astromart friends,

My Astromart account vanished last week. This has been puzzling; I have not done any of the offenses listed on the Terms Of Use agreement. I had a history of some 10 years of happy exchanges and over a hundred 5 star ratings, now lost. All of the ratings that I left for others have also vanished. I had one current ad (5 inch Maksutov) and lots of archived ads, all gone now.

A telescope that I purchased from outside the USA a couple of months ago has gotten lost. I trust the seller to do the right thing, and he seems to be trying to track its shipment. If this doesn’t happen, I may not be able to warn you with a bad rating about him.

I have averaged about one transaction per month through Astromart, sporadically, more purchases than sales. This seems pretty modest, but still a valuable service, an aid to my hobby and others who make and sell the equipment that I acquire or dispose of. I assumed that the whole system was supported by Anacortes and a few small manufacturers plus some committed enthusiasts. I thought that telling my friends about Anacortes’ effective, generous service was a form of support. I did not mind paying the $12 to get a new account. If they had required an annual fee in that range, or made a clear point about everyone needing to contribute, not just the most active, those who post lots of ads and like to see their names in colored lights, that would have been OK with me. Was I ditched for using a free service once too often? Who knows?

I wrote to Herb York when my attempts to log in failed. He directed me to the Administrator of AstroMart LLC. The only word that I got from there was “We see no account for you If you would like one you will need to sign up for a new account”. Multiple requests to Herb, Administrator, and Support got no further response. Presumably the new account invitation is evidence that I did not break any rules, even unknowingly. I have also asked the Administrator if I could have my old ratings restored to my new account (I know of one user who got this after being dumped). No reply.

At first, I thought that deleting some cookies from my computer (while sorting out a connection problem) might have interfered with signing in, but surely this would not terminate an account. It has not caused problems with any other accounts (ebay, Amazon, etc.). If the mysterious Administrator terminated my account, why? If not, who did? All of these inquiries seem to have fallen on deaf ears.

Here is a pertinent line from the ASTROMART TERMS OF USE AGREEMENT... “19.3... If you are honest, sincere and civil with your posts, Astromart expects that you will never have to worry about termination.”

This suggests an original intent to treat users with some respect and fairness. If that cannot be done with existing funding and personnel arrangements, changes should be made. I would rather be charged for a good functional Astromart that have a broken one for free.

Regards,
Phillip Houston
Astromart member since 2000
Posted 03/01/2010 07:06PM #1
Reading between the lines here.....it sounds like you are saying you have been here for 10 years buying and selling quite a bit and have never contributed anything towards its operation.

I dont buy this "I assumed Anacortes picked up the bills".....Not with the volume of announcements placed every week begging for support. I am betting your accnt was deleted as a result.

You say you now magically understand and wish to support.....I would say the best tack to take now is do so with your new accnt and chalk it up to lessons learned.... smile

Phillip Houston said:

Hello Astromart friends,

My Astromart account vanished last week. This has been puzzling; I have not done any of the offenses listed on the Terms Of Use agreement. I had a history of some 10 years of happy exchanges and over a hundred 5 star ratings, now lost. All of the ratings that I left for others have also vanished. I had one current ad (5 inch Maksutov) and lots of archived ads, all gone now.

A telescope that I purchased from outside the USA a couple of months ago has gotten lost. I trust the seller to do the right thing, and he seems to be trying to track its shipment. If this doesn’t happen, I may not be able to warn you with a bad rating about him.

I have averaged about one transaction per month through Astromart, sporadically, more purchases than sales. This seems pretty modest, but still a valuable service, an aid to my hobby and others who make and sell the equipment that I acquire or dispose of. I assumed that the whole system was supported by Anacortes and a few small manufacturers plus some committed enthusiasts. I thought that telling my friends about Anacortes’ effective, generous service was a form of support. I did not mind paying the $12 to get a new account. If they had required an annual fee in that range, or made a clear point about everyone needing to contribute, not just the most active, those who post lots of ads and like to see their names in colored lights, that would have been OK with me. Was I ditched for using a free service once too often? Who knows?

I wrote to Herb York when my attempts to log in failed. He directed me to the Administrator of AstroMart LLC. The only word that I got from there was “We see no account for you If you would like one you will need to sign up for a new account”. Multiple requests to Herb, Administrator, and Support got no further response. Presumably the new account invitation is evidence that I did not break any rules, even unknowingly. I have also asked the Administrator if I could have my old ratings restored to my new account (I know of one user who got this after being dumped). No reply.

At first, I thought that deleting some cookies from my computer (while sorting out a connection problem) might have interfered with signing in, but surely this would not terminate an account. It has not caused problems with any other accounts (ebay, Amazon, etc.). If the mysterious Administrator terminated my account, why? If not, who did? All of these inquiries seem to have fallen on deaf ears.

Here is a pertinent line from the ASTROMART TERMS OF USE AGREEMENT... “19.3... If you are honest, sincere and civil with your posts, Astromart expects that you will never have to worry about termination.”

This suggests an original intent to treat users with some respect and fairness. If that cannot be done with existing funding and personnel arrangements, changes should be made. I would rather be charged for a good functional Astromart that have a broken one for free.

Regards,
Phillip Houston
Astromart member since 2000

20" MidnighTelescopes f/5
8" f/16 Muffoletto Achro
Meade 6" AR6 f/8.0 Achro
Celestron C11
Parallax PI250 10" F/5 Newt
Vixen FL102S,NA140SS,R200SS
80mm Stellarvue Nighthawk with WO APOupgrade lens, 90mm f/16.67 Parallax Achro
LXD75/LX200, Mini-tower, GP-DX, CG5 ASGT, LXD650, GM-8, G11, GM-100, GM-150EX, GM-200 and a Gemini G40
4" portable AP convertable 44" or 70" pier
Stellarvue M7 Alt-Az, TSL7 Pier/Tripod
12.5" f/5 MidnighTelescopes DOB Swayze optics
Monroe GA
Posted 03/01/2010 11:43PM #2
Very sorry to hear it!!! I suspect you are not alone.
The number of ratings I have received from others has been
steadily dropping in the past few days -- no doubt a
sign that accounts are being purged, or some computer
glitch at AM, etc. -- who knows.

I recall you had some interesting posts about refractors
maybe 6 or 7 years ago. All gone now. Pity.